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Re: My Art Contributions

Postby WeLuvGoatz » 28 May 2018, 16:05

The last one for sure. All of them are great tho! You are very talented!
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Re: My Art Contributions

Postby Alzter » 29 May 2018, 00:38

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Tux took cool falling lessons from Sonic. :)

I'm thinking of redoing the backflip like this:
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And adding the cool pose at the end.
Good idea?
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Re: My Art Contributions

Postby WeLuvGoatz » 29 May 2018, 01:52

yes, the current one is uncreative. Tux needs some new sprites for movements. A new backflip is definitely needed, just like a new buttjump. Keep up the amazing artwork, Alzter! *fixed it*
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Re: My Art Contributions

Postby Alzter » 29 May 2018, 03:41

I'm thinking of redoing Tux's entire spriteset to have more flair and look nicer.
I finished the buttjump, so download SuperTux Improved (on page 1, first post) and try it out! It works in game! (For big tux.)

Oh and btw, It's alz-ter. :P
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Re: My Art Contributions

Postby manuel » 29 May 2018, 05:42

Looks great!
Maybe add a frame at the end where Tux slightly bends his (non-existent) knees, so he gets a little smaller before he stands up again.
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Re: My Art Contributions

Postby Alzter » 29 May 2018, 11:53

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Re: My Art Contributions

Postby Alzter » 30 May 2018, 13:03

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All of Grumbel's contributions to SuperTux were usually drawn twice as large and with black lining and then a colour fill.
I'm trying to replicate the style:
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I found all of the M1 XCF art files here: https://www.seul.org/~grumbel/tmp/
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Re: My Art Contributions

Postby Alzter » 02 Jun 2018, 06:21

Big Tux with 8 frames of walk instead of 6.
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Re: My Art Contributions

Postby Alzter » 02 Jun 2018, 06:43

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Progress. Surprisingly time consuming.

On another note, where is everyone?
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Re: My Art Contributions

Postby WeLuvGoatz » 02 Jun 2018, 17:27

sorry, ive been busy with android world v2 and many other things. looks great!
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Re: My Art Contributions

Postby Tlaloc1 » 04 Jun 2018, 23:41

Those sketches of Nolok kinda remind me of Bowser. I like them!

Especially that last one, maybe that pose could be used as an attack while fighting Nolok?
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Re: My Art Contributions

Postby Alzter » 10 Jun 2018, 13:37

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Big Tux's walking animation now has eight frames, like small tux! Download the latest SuperTux improved to try it out!
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Re: My Art Contributions

Postby Alzter » 10 Jun 2018, 14:49

Tiled rocks possibly suitable for a Forest world overhaul, if achievable.
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Re: My Art Contributions

Postby Alzter » 12 Jun 2018, 10:17

Mr. Tree is the first of the forest badguys to undergo a redo from me!

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Walking Tests:
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Final:
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The latest SuperTux Improved contains the new walk, so be sure to try it out! :D
More Mr. Tree/Stumpy animations soon, then will do more forest creatures.
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Re: My Art Contributions

Postby WeLuvGoatz » 12 Jun 2018, 15:27

I like it, but I dont think it fits the Supertux style. The current tree is pretty good imo since it fits the cartoony style of supertux. Some enemies that do need work seem to be the owl, plant monster and ghost tree.
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Goodbye

Postby Alzter » 13 Jun 2018, 02:30

Sorry guys. I have to quit. A lot of stuff is coming up irl and I have no time for this anymore.
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Re: My Art Contributions

Postby WeLuvGoatz » 13 Jun 2018, 02:43

No. I wont let Supertux die, Drama Queen.
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The problem with SuperTux

Postby Alzter » 15 Jun 2018, 00:24

I believe that SuperTux is fatally flawed. It is a Mario copy that lacks any originality in gameplay or presentation. It was made to be a Mario clone for Linux.

What's the point reviving this game? There's only so many times you can inject life into a carcass. This game is DEAD.
Things are just there for no reason but because they have been there in forever and changing them would drastically change the game.
All of the content is either made by team members who have left, or crappy placeholder that'll never be changed.
The team is unstable and it's very hard to get anything done, and getting things done is pointless.
What is the point in doing stuff when the whole concept of this game is bad?

Take a good look at SuperTux.
It's a Mario clone from 2001 where you play as the Linux mascot in a computer world.
It was revived and the environment was changed to Antarctica.
It was revived AGAIN and a new engine was made and a bad forest world.
It was revived a THIRD TIME and bugfixes.

It's all outdated, and some of the core elements are bad.
What's the point changing them? Why redo the entire game?
Just kill this game.

This game is wasting everybody's time and energy. We aren't getting anything good out of it. It won't generate anything good.

Maybe make a new one if you:
A. WANT to make the game, and not out of a feeling of necessity to revive this old carcass.
B. Have an ORIGINAL IDEA that the game has going for it. Why make a Mario clone? Just because you want to finish it? Waste of time.
C. Have the TIME to make the game.
D. Have enough people to make the game consistently.
E. Have realistic and grounded expectations that aren't too ambitious for the team. Start off small, maybe.

I don't know, I'm not a game developer.
My point is that this game is going nowhere, and it's an ancient relic of old Linux gaming and old games. Kill it.
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Re: Let SuperTux die please

Postby QwertyChouskie » 15 Jun 2018, 00:53

Although I agree ST does not have many "unique" elements, here's where I disagree: It's still a fun game. A game does not have to be original to be fun. Look at e.g. OpenRCT2: it is not just a clone, but a reverse-engineering and re-implementation of RCT2. That's what makes it what it is. Don't get me wrong, I like original elements (e.g. SuperTuxKart's nitro) but you don't necessarily have to be original to be fun.
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Re: Let SuperTux die please

Postby Tlaloc1 » 26 Jun 2018, 20:28

QwertyChouskie {l Wrote}:Although I agree ST does not have many "unique" elements, here's where I disagree: It's still a fun game. A game does not have to be original to be fun. Look at e.g. OpenRCT2: it is not just a clone, but a reverse-engineering and re-implementation of RCT2. That's what makes it what it is. Don't get me wrong, I like original elements (e.g. SuperTuxKart's nitro) but you don't necessarily have to be original to be fun.


I agree. Supertux is not very original, but its still a pretty good game. I think the thing that makes Supertux better than Mario is the level editor. Granted, the level editor for milestone 2 didn't exist until recently, but I think its one of the greatest things about Supertux.

Not everything needs to be original to be great, it just needs to take its own spin on things, which I think Supertux does really well.
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Re: My Art Contributions

Postby igel » 01 Jul 2018, 07:47

WeLuvGoatz {l Wrote}:I like it, but I dont think it fits the Supertux style. The current tree is pretty good imo since it fits the cartoony style of supertux. Some enemies that do need work seem to be the owl, plant monster and ghost tree.


Well said. While I think these new drawings are good, they just seem a little too...lifelike, I guess? Maybe I've become too attached to the current versions of things.
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Re: My Art Contributions

Postby charlie » 26 Sep 2018, 13:45

Alzter {l Wrote}:Mr. Tree is the first of the forest badguys to undergo a redo from me!

First Sketch:
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Final:
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The latest SuperTux Improved contains the new walk, so be sure to try it out! :D
More Mr. Tree/Stumpy animations soon, then will do more forest creatures.

What would make the tree a bit better is if there was some rustling in the leaves. He's a bit static at the moment. The leaves should 'bounce' a bit as he walks.
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Re: My Art Contributions

Postby Alzter » 30 Sep 2018, 10:39

To be honest I would probably redo Mr. Tree if I were to come back to drawing art for SuperTux anyway. He's horribly asymmetrical, his lighting has too much contrast as compared to other badguys and he looks a bit too scary.
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