Ok, i've updated icons with new Sara.
(see pictures below)
I've committed it too soon, even if i wasn't sure about some details, i have to recognize this. I apologize.
Now i need you to tell me (if you like it or not, obviously, but more than that) what do you like or dislike particularly about it.
Because i can improve it. Again, you can understand (or already understood) that we have to unify look of icons. Some of mine were added. And i work with precise lines in mind. The old ones differ a bit or a lot. Especially Sara's one.
Just saying that you don't like it, or you prefer the old one, don't help. How do you think i spend time for all that stuff i propose ?
The main argument of people who already said they don't like it was : the old one is more cartoonish. That's all, i know nothing more.
For my part, i'm not sure about mouth i've did. Maybe close it and just smile. What do you think ?
less blur shadows ? no pink cheeks ? simplify the nose ? Have a real opinion for godsake ! or you really want the game to stay basic ?
Why i don't make all hese changes myself ? I'm not going to make a lot of proposals alone. Having your precise opinion makes me spend less time that i can spend on other stuff for STK (like helping samuncle on Ravenbridge mansion, deve on android UI, finish the new Elephpant kart, …).
(and don't tell others i'm a troll -i'm here to help the game improve too, with my skills (my experience, so my point of view of course)- thanks to the person who's going to identify themself)
I want to share with you another point of view i've received. My grandparents one (i live at their home since a while, because of a money problem).a short description of them:
They lived on a barge before getting a house.
My grandmother had some time for culture and art, not a lot, but she had. She's not an artist at all, she don't understand all that i do, but she used to knit, stitch. After the barge she was a fish vendor.
After the barge, my grandfather worked at car factory (like i currently do before working in video games industry again). He like computer but cannot use it correctly. He spend time making novice montage of pictures of him and put that on facebook.
In retirement they both spend too much time watching tv…their opinion about Sara's icons:
I've said nothing about icons author or use (only after they chose). And i've asked them to be generous in their explanations and that they won't be judged for that.
My grand mother choosed my version.
She said that she was prettier and mature. The old one looks like a child. (be adult seems to me logic to be an experienced sorceress and princess, but everyone think what he wants ; btw it seems that Sara is not a child anymore if we look at ther underwear)
My grandfather prefered the old one.
He had diffculties to explain his opinion. Just saying it looks more simple, and he prefers the smile. My grandmother knew that he was going to choose the old one. My grandfather didn't know what would be his wife choice…
You seem to like my new "karts" and some of my other stuff.
But if I adhere to the logic of people who prefer old stuff because it's cartooner, my vehicles are incoherent and have nothing to do in STK.
Sorry about the speech, it's maybe because i was born french
So i like arguments, i like listen to people explanations, for things to improve, for people to be happier.
Again i agree that i should not have update Sara icon while helping about Sara the racer beams.
But if you just say 'no i don't like' (i feel like repeating myself) and remove it, i'm going to feel demoralized and do something else (currently after my job at the factory i spend most of my free time on STK instead on working on my future open source game company…).
Children in all that mess ?
Of course some children will choose the old one, and some children will choose the new one (changed or not).
I always believe children need good stuff to grow up with a lot of experience and good values, for them to be able to really change the world and be happy once adults. I hate when we try to keep child as they are, like they weren't smart like us.
I work on a game that is firstly intended for children. While studying and choosing economic model for the game, i've found a part about children. And it confirmed what i think: children like playing video games which grow up their skills, because they want to have good skills, to do like adults, to do as well or better, to stop being judged inferior.
So yep, i'm a bit angry that you keep wanting old really basic art, sometimes saying 'it's for children'. Omg. Let them watching TV a lot of time too ?
Beforehand i want to say something for people who's not sure about earrings (that don't mean i'm opposed to remove it).
I've add below some concepts of Sara. They are made by my exgirlfriend (i've credited her while updating Sara the last time). These concepts helped Samuncle when he wanted to add Sara to the game. All that story is already old now. So i've added earrings to the 2d icon, and of course planned to add it to the 3d when we'll update it one day.
If i've put those earrings that we can see on the illustration, it's by respect for that person that i use to know, worked with me, and helped me to improve my art, especially about colors. And i confess: we're both perced
Why crescent white so ? Reference to the original Sara.
Thanks for your time.
let's exchange !