fluffrabbit {l Wrote}:If Widelands and Unknown Horizons are clones, I don't know what they're cloning.
fluffrabbit {l Wrote}:Also TBH these games are BORING. Card games, BORED games, and barely-violent empire-building games with medieval technology. Ugh. No more. Can't take...any more.
Sockstah {l Wrote}:fluffrabbit {l Wrote}:If Widelands and Unknown Horizons are clones, I don't know what they're cloning.
Settlers 2 and the Anno series respectively.
Sockstah {l Wrote}:fluffrabbit {l Wrote}:Also TBH these games are BORING. Card games, BORED games, and barely-violent empire-building games with medieval technology. Ugh. No more. Can't take...any more.
Hah, I usually feel the same but slower games can be fun while listening to a podcast or stuff like that. They also flourish in multiplayer if you are in voice chat (or at a table, since you mentioned card and "BORED" games) with the people you're playing with.
Reading them it seems to me like a lot of "clones" would fit neither in the first list for being too close to the games they're cloning but also not in the second one for being too different. Things like Widelands or Unknown Horizons come to mind.
BORED games
games that stand on their own merit individually
I see you haven't been exposed to modern board/card games.
Julius {l Wrote}:It's a curated list on onpon4's personal website... of course it is oppinionated.
Julius {l Wrote}:I think the nerds kicked you out of the board game sessions for needless trolling and now you bad mouth them
fluffrabbit {l Wrote}:You'll play communist propaganda aimed at children (SuperTuxKart)
Lyberta {l Wrote}:fluffrabbit {l Wrote}:You'll play communist propaganda aimed at children (SuperTuxKart)
Wow, I've barely even played it so I dunno. What's communist in there? Story?
fluffrabbit {l Wrote}:I did a whole writeup on it, and now I wish I hadn't thrown that out. Basically, the intro sequence shows the GNU cow-god meditating and levitating like a lama before the evil Donald Trump character lasers GNU away because of money or something, and the whole game is about that theme.
Lyberta {l Wrote}:fluffrabbit {l Wrote}:I did a whole writeup on it, and now I wish I hadn't thrown that out. Basically, the intro sequence shows the GNU cow-god meditating and levitating like a lama before the evil Donald Trump character lasers GNU away because of money or something, and the whole game is about that theme.
How is GNU communist?
I happen to like Candy Land
The Candy Land thing was an ongoing battle. I don't know why people badmouth it.
onpon4 {l Wrote}:LOL, of course, free speech is "tyrannical". Gotta love how that works.
onpon4 {l Wrote}:I happen to like Candy Land
Good for you, you like games of chance where nothing you do matters. 笑 But you can't just expect other adults to have that same preference.
onpon4 {l Wrote}:The Candy Land thing was an ongoing battle. I don't know why people badmouth it.
Because it's a simplistic children's game where nothing you do matters? Like, at all? Literally all you do is draw cards. Everything that happens on the board is determined by what those cards say.
You're welcome to your preferences, but how can you not understand that most adults would find such a game to be boring? There's a reason it's targeted at very young children.
if I valued free software, but sadly that is mattering less and less to me by the day. Always so much politics with the meal, and I didn't order that, I just wanted to eat.
Again, it's a metaphore for life.
Only nerds care about game theory.
onpon4 {l Wrote}:if I valued free software, but sadly that is mattering less and less to me by the day. Always so much politics with the meal, and I didn't order that, I just wanted to eat.
I do have a similar feeling to that. I wrote about it in an article a couple days ago, it's called "Actions Speak Louder than Words" (on the same website, the Articles section).
Not quite the same, though. I'm not abandoning the libre software movement or its principles; I'm abandoning the FSF and its way of doing things in favor of what the open source crowd has been doing for years to much greater effect.
onpon4 {l Wrote}:Again, it's a metaphore for life.
I seriously doubt that. From what I can find, it's a simple game designed for children at a hospital, i.e. the design is just made to be simplistic and appeal to children.
onpon4 {l Wrote}:Only nerds care about game theory.
You know game theory is an economic theory, right? It has nothing to do with actual games.
How are we being productive?
My ego needs more than some apathetic comments about code structure.
I have also heard the term used in the context of biological systems, so I think it's more generally applicable. It also implies a way of thinking based on numbers, which conflicts with my philosophy.
onpon4 {l Wrote}:How are we being productive?
Improving libre software, mainly.
onpon4 {l Wrote}:My ego needs more than some apathetic comments about code structure.
If all you want to do is feed your ego, there are tons of ways you can do that without changing the world. Why not barely learn a language none of your peers know and brag about it? That would work, I figure.
onpon4 {l Wrote}:I have also heard the term used in the context of biological systems, so I think it's more generally applicable. It also implies a way of thinking based on numbers, which conflicts with my philosophy.
If you want to boost your ego, you shouldn't talk publicly about things you clearly know nothing about in a venue where you can be called out on it.
Better idea: go to the Flat Earth Society and argue with them about how the Earth is clearly round, or alternatively, join them laughing amongst themselves for knowing "the truth" while the masses continue to believe the "lie" of the round Earth. One of those would surely boost your ego.
onpon4 {l Wrote}:I'm abandoning the FSF and its way of doing things in favor of what the open source crowd has been doing for years to much greater effect.
Lyberta {l Wrote}:onpon4 {l Wrote}:I'm abandoning the FSF and its way of doing things in favor of what the open source crowd has been doing for years to much greater effect.
So are you gonna put a lot of spyware enabled by default and release binary under proprietary license with even more spyware compiled in? That's what every Open Source project does nowadays.
Check out: https://github.com/mholt/caddy/
https://caddyserver.com/download
Julius {l Wrote}:Split the discussion.
While I don't mind lively discussions, this one was getting widely off topic. How about making our IRC channel a bit more lively instead of clogging up theads here on the forum with discussions like that?
Julius {l Wrote}:Sure, in the works. As soon as I got the bridging to IRC going I will open registration to our new Mattermost chat. It's working nicely already, but without any kind if bridging you will talk to yourself mostly
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