Because otherwise the community will destroy it.
Julius {l Wrote}:Moderator notice: Early warning to both of you: Don't start stupid licensing flame-wars here!
AGPL permits commercial use. The only difference between AGPL and GPL is that you must provide the source code when you run it on your server.
By making proprietary derivative works.
And I think that copyright and patents shouldn't exist
because they deny freedom for no other reason than pure greed.
I think universal basic income and socialism are good enough compromises while automation powered anarchism is the best.
Lyberta {l Wrote}:fluffrabbit {l Wrote}:IP laws are kinda hard to enforce.
But it's easy to send cease and desist letter and ban people on all kind of public platforms.
Lyberta {l Wrote}:fluffrabbit {l Wrote}:How universal? Within a country, that country's average lifestyle can be more or less maintained, but the larger the country, the more third-world, or should I say, "basic", the basic income is. Socialism is a pretty subjective term.
I'd say enough to buy food, clothes, pay the bills and afford some PC upgrades every 5 years or so. For example my pension is 300$/month and that's not enough for even food because my family spends about 500$/month on food. As a result, I have to rely on my parents for money. This is bullshit.
Lyberta {l Wrote}:And I think that copyright and patents shouldn't exist because they deny freedom for no other reason than pure greed. I think universal basic income and socialism are good enough compromises while automation powered anarchism is the best.
intelligent and educated people, who see that behaving in a collaborative way, in a world where we no longer compete with other species and have enough resources, benefits everyone, and so all laws are just moral. They don't need to be exactly specified, neither enforced -- they're simply any logically inferred rules, which if followed by most people, converge to an ideal society, on which the majority of people agree -- a society without suffering, maximizing happiness of everyone.
Sure, current tactic is to lobby specific laws and let people die as a result of those laws. Donald Trump can't just build concentration camps to kill all trans people, he's just gonna ban them from military first, then add more laws that leave them without employment and healthcare and then they die. Ahh, 21st century genocide.
Lyberta {l Wrote}:Donald Trump can't just build concentration camps to kill all trans people, he's just gonna ban them from military first, then add more laws that leave them without employment and healthcare and then they die. Ahh, 21st century genocide.
Lyberta {l Wrote}:And I think that copyright and patents shouldn't exist because they deny freedom for no other reason than pure greed.
Lyberta {l Wrote}:I think universal basic income and socialism are good enough compromises while automation powered anarchism is the best.
fluffrabbit {l Wrote}:You've lost me there. How about a little dumbness and suffering for old time's sake? Some of us like aspects of society which you don't seem to. Perhaps diverging into societies which work for different personalities would be best.
Or is there anything you wouldn't be able to do in this kind of society?
Julius {l Wrote}:Well this went from a largely senseless licensing discussion to an in depth but also a bit pointless political discussion. Please keep it civil and tone down the swear words (this forum is frequented by quite a lot of minors AFAIK)
Regarding this general discussion... I would like to point people to the interesting idea of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communalism or sometimes called "democratic confederalism" which is a bit like what drummyfish describes but due to the open and somewhat competing nature of different ideas in the resulting city-states / regions it is probably something also people with more right-wing ideals can get behind and support (I disagree that these right-wings ideals are only from "crazy, not intelligent enough etc., who don't understand" people, even though I do not share most of their beliefs).
Competition and social hierarchies are necessary in early stages of any society, but it's something that always enslaves people, making any such society a jungle which we strive to escape, and so once it is possible to break free from competition/capitalism and the survival of the fittest
fluffrabbit {l Wrote}:There is also the possibility of a technological singularity well within our lifetimes, and that itself would radically alter day-to-day life, so I don't know what plans would make sense after that, if such an event is to take place.
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