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OH MAN WTF IS THIS!!!

PostPosted: 19 Nov 2019, 15:21
by dumaosen
I have mentioned this a lot before, even in my tips manager.
I DONT THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO MAKE SARA THE WIZARD UPSKIRT WHEN SHE'S FLYING. IT'S DISGUSTING! I DONT THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO ADD PORN TO AN ALL-AGE GAME, AND SARA IS A QUEEN!!!

Re: OH MAN WTF IS THIS!!!

PostPosted: 19 Nov 2019, 20:25
by eltomito
Dude! I gotta pay better attention to Sara during the races! I've never noticed this before! Are you sure you can actually see her panties anytime in the game? Screenshot!!

Re: OH MAN WTF IS THIS!!!

PostPosted: 19 Nov 2019, 21:41
by tempAnon093
This is going to be an exciting thread, I can already tell.

eltomito {l Wrote}:Are you sure you can actually see her panties anytime in the game? Screenshot!!

Here: https://files.catbox.moe/f2h43s.webm

The bottom line is that it is blatant, especially so with default color scheme.
On one hand, I do think it's a bit tasteless to put in the core game, regardless of if you want to say 'it's just physics'. It's obvious, unnecessary and people will continue to find it offensive (many cultures are not as liberated as Europe). On the other hand, anyone who thinks it is sexual rather than comedic is old enough that they should be able to deal with it :P

I would support the replacement of this animation, at least in core.

Re: OH MAN WTF IS THIS!!!

PostPosted: 19 Nov 2019, 22:59
by QwertyChouskie
tempAnon093 {l Wrote}:I would support the replacement of this animation, at least in core.


Or just give her shorts underneath the dress, like how it's usually done IRL.

Re: OH MAN WTF IS THIS!!!

PostPosted: 20 Nov 2019, 06:50
by tempAnon093
QwertyChouskie {l Wrote}:Or just give her shorts underneath the dress, like how it's usually done IRL.

Yeah, that would be fine I reckon. That would actually be easier to model than reanimating, I assume it's just replacing the textures in that underwear+skin asset.

Re: OH MAN WTF IS THIS!!!

PostPosted: 20 Nov 2019, 08:25
by drummyfish
Leave that in please, it's great.

Re: OH MAN WTF IS THIS!!!

PostPosted: 20 Nov 2019, 08:38
by eltomito
tempAnon093 {l Wrote}:This is going to be an exciting thread, I can already tell.

eltomito {l Wrote}:Are you sure you can actually see her panties anytime in the game? Screenshot!!

Here: https://files.catbox.moe/f2h43s.webm


Come on! If that's all you can ever see in the game, then it isn't anything more than you get to see what going to a classical ballet performance or a circus show!
I wouldn't worry about it at all.
Swan Lake, anyone? Image
Sorry for the huge image size but I think it makes my point clear.

Re: OH MAN WTF IS THIS!!!

PostPosted: 20 Nov 2019, 15:00
by dumaosen
Eww. Looks like u guys like upskirt.
BTW i can't say the reason, but im pretty interested in Auria's reaction.
@Auria

Re: OH MAN WTF IS THIS!!!

PostPosted: 20 Nov 2019, 22:53
by eltomito
Or you could go to a gallery in Florence and see a statue by one of the Ninja Turtles:
Image

Re: OH MAN WTF IS THIS!!!

PostPosted: 23 Nov 2019, 09:57
by nadebula1984
Please, no erotic contents. Current Saras are already not very suitable for children.

Re: OH MAN WTF IS THIS!!!

PostPosted: 28 Nov 2019, 11:44
by charlie
I think you are all being a bit OTT. People wear underwear. Kids don't think in such sexual terms. As long as it isn't erotic, don't go overboard on making sure it is censored.

Re: OH MAN WTF IS THIS!!!

PostPosted: 30 Nov 2019, 14:58
by dumaosen
I think it's sexual, but im 14 years old. Even 11-12-year-old kids in China think it's sexual.

Re: OH MAN WTF IS THIS!!!

PostPosted: 01 Dec 2019, 05:37
by acme_pjz
dumaosen {l Wrote}:I think it's sexual, but im 14 years old. Even 11-12-year-old kids in China think it's sexual.


Well, this only indicates that there is absolutely no sex education for teenagers in China. I suggest you to obtain a copy (electronic or paper) of 《珍爱生命: 小学生性健康教育读本》 and read it.

Re: OH MAN WTF IS THIS!!!

PostPosted: 01 Dec 2019, 13:49
by dumaosen
acme_pjz {l Wrote}:
dumaosen {l Wrote}:I think it's sexual, but im 14 years old. Even 11-12-year-old kids in China think it's sexual.


Well, this only indicates that there is absolutely no sex education for teenagers in China. I suggest you to obtain a copy (electronic or paper) of 《珍爱生命: 小学生性健康教育读本》 and read it.

it's becoming off-topic... Anyway let's poll

Re: OH MAN WTF IS THIS!!!

PostPosted: 01 Dec 2019, 21:35
by Diogenes v. S.
With all due respect; China is not the world. Rather, the one who thinks of pornography at the sight of underwear should go to the psychologist as soon as possible. In that sense, Diogenes

Re: OH MAN WTF IS THIS!!!

PostPosted: 22 Jul 2020, 13:17
by quantum immortal
i'm restraining my self from trolling this tread....

Re: OH MAN WTF IS THIS!!!

PostPosted: 14 Feb 2021, 13:13
by McRavenINDo
GOOD NEWS!!
There will be Sara revamped!

youtu.be/aUIzqsiM8-E

Re: OH MAN WTF IS THIS!!!

PostPosted: 15 Feb 2021, 00:07
by eltomito
McRavenINDo {l Wrote}:GOOD NEWS!!
There will be Sara revamped!

Sad. I like the joke.

Re: OH MAN WTF IS THIS!!!

PostPosted: 15 Feb 2021, 15:02
by drummyfish
Not sure if it's good news and if we should still pretend this is for the safety of children. It's ridiculous to think a child could be harmed by seeing someone's underwear for a fraction of second. I think this is about political propaganda. I also think a half-naked LGBT character in this game would pass.

Re: OH MAN WTF IS THIS!!!

PostPosted: 15 Feb 2021, 16:32
by CYBERDEViL
Wouldn't removing Sara's underwear make it worse? :p

Re: OH MAN WTF IS THIS!!!

PostPosted: 18 Feb 2021, 09:14
by tempAnon093
drummyfish {l Wrote}:I also think a half-naked LGBT character in this game would pass.

I have no idea what would give you that impression. I don't think it would pass at all, not because of the half-nakedness but the fact that themes such as sexual and romantic orientation isn't appropriate to the game, whether it be heterosexual, homosexual or anything else. We don't know if any of the characters are LGBT+ or not, and it's not important. STK doesn't even take in-game political statements on more relevant issues like corporations and capitalism, so to suggest the project would be propagandic about sexuality seems absurd to me. We aren't looking for rainbow capitalism money :p

Re: OH MAN WTF IS THIS!!!

PostPosted: 18 Feb 2021, 15:27
by drummyfish
I think it would pass because if anyone opposed anything LGBT or other SJW thing, even if that was completely reasonable (e.g. violating the theme of the game or not being suitable for target audience), they'd be cancelled pretty quickly just like Stallman (and many others) who only ever talked very rationally and reasonably, but on a prohibited subject, and so was cancelled just out of principle. Most people wouldn't therefore even dare oppose it out of this fear in the first place, so it would probably pass silently. I mean pride parades with people that are literally naked and copulating in the streets in the daylight are allowed and watched by children too, and you basically aren't allowed to oppose that, so there's not even an argument against not including that in a child-friendly game.

Actually I'd be glad to see an experiment, someone try to include a naked LGBT character in STK, Sara is a nice opportunity.

Re: OH MAN WTF IS THIS!!!

PostPosted: 18 Feb 2021, 20:29
by Jastiv
I like the new Sara. Everything does not have to be turned into a political football. Considering a lot of these games have an international audience, some people might even think new Sara has too few cloths (some middle eastern countries come to mind.)

Re: OH MAN WTF IS THIS!!!

PostPosted: 18 Feb 2021, 20:55
by eltomito
Jastiv {l Wrote}:I like the new Sara.


So do I. I just like the current one better.

Re: OH MAN WTF IS THIS!!!

PostPosted: 19 Feb 2021, 00:57
by tempAnon093
I won't discuss thoughts on FSF/Stallman or pride parades as they are broad, require context and have significant different factors involved (e.g. we aren't a political activist group) and only encourage off-topic debate that may derail this thread for no gain. I think complaints about them should be continued elsewhere.
drummyfish {l Wrote}:Most people wouldn't therefore even dare oppose it out of this fear in the first place

Speak for yourself. My experience here makes me suspect the project leads would have absolutely no hesitation to critisize what they see as unfitting to the project. If you want a case study on social justice activists, STK didn't budge when someone caused a fuss about the alleged cultural appropriation of Sara in a native Americas setting. (phone posting so sorry if there's an inaccuracy, do correct me). Furthermore, we have little incentive to signal with exploitative sexuality fake-divesity.
drummyfish {l Wrote}:Actually I'd be glad to see an experiment

That's a bit silly, manufacturing drama in a place you care about, but I would be one of the first to explain why it would be a harmful decision.