HELP: Need good smoke

HELP: Need good smoke

Postby cdxbow » 01 Apr 2013, 23:27

I have been trying to first find, then make some special fx such as smoke and explosions. In neither case have I been very succesful. I even looked at commercial models, but most use various Max features like particle systems/mesh deformers etc that don't really export as models or if they do they have way too many poly's. I've also must have been a bit worried by Kim Jong-un and his nukes, I even bought my very own nuclear explosion. It exports, but only frame animated, and at a megaton size. I hope the supreme leader has as much trouble with his.

Back to smoke, one way is to have a irregular cone shaped mesh that turns and morphs slowly, it has a suitable smokey and partially transperant graphic. The example below shows a few frames of one such mesh, as it turns it looks like it is moving upward.
smoke_mesh_hp.jpg

This particular one is way to high in polys(and frames) to be suitable for gaming but you can get an idea of how it works. A lower poly, skeletally animated version could work.

Next approach is probably only suitable for distant smoke effects, basically you could use a couple of animated panels that grow slowly in time. The panels would be timed differently and overlap. In the image you can see the idea using 2 panels, and they would animate (move and expand in some way). The texture is not representive of what you would use.
2d_technique.jpg

This has the advantage of being low poly and low number of bones.

Another way is like an animated flip book, this is example is from the Holly model from the Red Dwarf game (a sauer mod) The original animated the computer character head in a very simple way by moving the frames to the front of the rack. The example picture shows the same model with a very early attempt with an explosion.
flipping_example.jpg

This technique is probably more suitable for explosions.

So before I blunder around any further whether anyone out there has any good ideas, experience or any example models? Perhaps blender has an answer?
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Re: HELP: Need good smoke

Postby qreeves » 01 Apr 2013, 23:51

I doubt you'll see me use 200 triangles when I could use just two, the RE family is already bogged down by much more than Sauerbraten ever had to deal with. There are ways to do this with (soft) particles if you're good with textures, its a matter of properly depth mapping and shadowing, both of which can be done in GIMP.

EDIT: also, I have some pretty good smoke right here ;-)
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Re: HELP: Need good smoke

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Re: HELP: Need good smoke

Postby hulk » 13 Jul 2013, 17:31

It's about time for some proper particle effects, which use real meshes, so i will support this idea in every way i possibly can.
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