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Dratz-_C {l Wrote}:ballist1c,
You have made a wonderful discovery with the appropriate licensing. Now we can make the sets available to casual mappers who would otherwise not look for other textures themselves. Thank you!
Cheers

Dratz-_C {l Wrote}:Is the license different in the texture pack than on the webpage? http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/deed.en_US From the webpage link it says commercial use is permitted and alteration is also permitted with attribution as the only condition.

ballist1c {l Wrote}:Here's another "maybe": the eX series of textures made by evillair found here: http://www.evillair.net/v2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=28&Itemid=43

These sets are pretty much classic and have been used for Quake 2/3/4 Maps, to Xonotic, to Cube 2... they are everywhere, and for good reason, they are excellent.

Yes, yes, I KNOW, they are listed under BY-NC-ND, which is totally incompatible with Red Eclipse. HOWEVER, my reasoning is they are used in Xonotic, and that is GPL licensed, which IS compatible with RE. So, if we can get special permission like Xonotic did, then we will be good to go

quintux_v {l Wrote}:Did... you guys really just learn about the phillipk textures now?

No offense to anybody, but they have been in other flavors of Cube 2 (e.g. Sauerbraten, as mentioned, along with Sandbox and some others) for quite a while now. They're pretty complete, though - you've got your wall trims, your ceilings and floors, walls, grates, light textures - the complete package. I vote to include them (if anyone's counting).

(this feels very backwards - RE is probably the community that's doing the most moving forward of the communities I know, and yet hadn't noticed these. Huh.)

• The Sauerbraten licenses are not very well maintained or cohesive, so I tried to avoid using anything from there as much as possible.
• Sauerbraten had already passed on including the TRaK texture sets, I felt it would be good to distinguish RE from Sauer by selecting an initial set of textures which were different.
• I wanted to keep the size of the distribution as small as possible (RE is still considered quite small for the punch it packs), this means not including textures until we are at a point where we need them.

qreeves {l Wrote}:No, I was well aware of them (you may forget that I was originally developing for Sauerbraten).

qreeves {l Wrote}:I made the decision not to include them initially for a few reasons:

• The Sauerbraten licenses are not very well maintained or cohesive, so I tried to avoid using anything from there as much as possible.
• Sauerbraten had already passed on including the TRaK texture sets, I felt it would be good to distinguish RE from Sauer by selecting an initial set of textures which were different.
• I wanted to keep the size of the distribution as small as possible (RE is still considered quite small for the punch it packs), this means not including textures until we are at a point where we need them.

Dratz-_C {l Wrote}:That makes sense.

qreeves {l Wrote}:

• The Sauerbraten licenses are not very well maintained or cohesive, so I tried to avoid using anything from there as much as possible.
• Sauerbraten had already passed on including the TRaK texture sets, I felt it would be good to distinguish RE from Sauer by selecting an initial set of textures which were different.
• I wanted to keep the size of the distribution as small as possible (RE is still considered quite small for the punch it packs), this means not including textures until we are at a point where we need them.

quintux_v {l Wrote}:Did... you guys really just learn about the phillipk textures now?

No offense to anybody, but they have been in other flavors of Cube 2 (e.g. Sauerbraten, as mentioned, along with Sandbox and some others) for quite a while now. They're pretty complete, though - you've got your wall trims, your ceilings and floors, walls, grates, light textures - the complete package. I vote to include them (if anyone's counting).

(this feels very backwards - RE is probably the community that's doing the most moving forward of the communities I know, and yet hadn't noticed these. Huh.)

If there's any need for more textures, this guy (http://agf81.deviantart.com/) releases textures (seamless and unmodified) under a cc-by-3.0 license. I also found these - http://opengameart.org/content/huge-2048-tileable-textures-pack - but I'm unsure if they're already used in RE or not (considering the relationship between FGD and OGA).

qreeves {l Wrote}:Then it is up to someone to both format the textures for RE and give me a reason to include them. I don't put textures in now without it being necessary *wink wink*