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Alright, let's get done with.

PostPosted: 25 Feb 2012, 16:46
by 012yArthur0
Can someone help me on this? When I start entering on a server, it says that "Connection failed (Adress Banned).

Can someone know whats going on, and help me how to remove this?

Re: Adress Banned?

PostPosted: 25 Feb 2012, 20:40
by TheLastProject
It means you have been banned from the serer. A ban generally lasts one hour or until there are no players on a server anymore. If the ban lasts for longer than that then it means you have not been banned by a Global Moderator but by a developer or the server owner. Please try joining another server or contact the server owner if it keeps occuring.

Re: Adress Banned?

PostPosted: 25 Feb 2012, 20:57
by 012yArthur0
But I got banned on all the servers. I didn't made anything wrong. So it is a glitch?

Re: Adress Banned?

PostPosted: 26 Feb 2012, 01:48
by qreeves
What is your IP address?

Re: Adress Banned?

PostPosted: 26 Feb 2012, 05:44
by 012yArthur0
It is fixed now. Thanks for the helps!

Alright, let's get done with.

PostPosted: 28 Feb 2012, 00:51
by 012yArthur0
I was accused from hacking, which one was "Weapon hacking". Which makes grenades , even if it miss the target, kill almost half of the people on the server. I was banned from Wazu clan because of this accusation.

Ok, my statement: I never hacked, and chances are that is a glitch.

Why: 1. I was witness from this kind of "glitch" too, when I was playing on keystone.
2. Now think with me:
2.1 Why would I hack on a such low-number of players on the server?
2.2 If my grenades could kill half of the players, why wouldn't it kill everybody?
2.3 If people is accusing me, there is any video/screenshot to prove it? Witness can bring alot of misunderstanding.
2.4 Hackers tend to catch a big fish. Probably on a full-of-pros servers, which I rarely goes (especially that they are clan fights), and this glitch never really happened on anything close to it.
2.5 Some players already said to me that some mods/admins gave some accusations even if it isn't the truth. How would I know if you just misunderstood something and I paying the bill?

Now I will ask another thing. Would I be banned or not? If so, say it now.

Re: Alright, let's get done with.

PostPosted: 28 Feb 2012, 08:11
by TheLastProject
There are three ways you can get banned:
1. By a global moderator: These bans are always temporary and only affect one server. Abuse of this power will result in revoked moderation rights for said person.
2. By a server owner: These bans are most likely permanent and only affect that server. The server owner may alert other server owners or own more servers on which he can ban you. As the servers belong to the server owners they have the right to ban players for whatever reason they want, even if this reason is something along the line of "I feel like it".
3. By a developer/administrator: These bans are most likely permanent and affect all public servers.

Because of this, saying honestly if you will be banned is hard to do. If such a thing happens and a server owner notices it, it is possible you will get banned from that specific server, but that won't impair your ability to play on other servers. If a global moderator bans you, this will be temporary and therefore isn't something you should worry about, seeing as one-off cases are generally not reported to an administrator. If you get banned from all servers, which seems to have happened to you, it's a good idea to visit the forums as you did or our IRC chat.

Now, to answer your points:
2.1: Such behaviour frequently happens to "test" a cheat. I'm not accusing you of cheating as I've seen no evidence for or against you, I'm merely talking about previous experience as a moderator here.
2.2: A limited range that is still relatively high would cause a lot of players to be killed instead of all.
2.3: Some servers may record demos which show what happened. If the server recorded those, the server owner should have access to these files. You can also record a video yourself by typing /movie followed by the name you want to save the video as (for example, "/movie test"). You can stop recording by typing /movie without anything behind it. Please note that these files are generally of quite low quality which may make it hard to see things and are stored uncompressed, causing them to have big filesizes.
2.4: Besides it being a "glitch", it could technically be a server setting as pretty much every single variable on a server can be changed. If this would be the case, you would be able to see strange values for a weapon under "variables -> weap" for said weapon.
2.5: Moderators should be sure something is happening before accusing someone, so accusing before being sure is a fault entirely on their side.

I would understand this has barely helped you, and I apologize for that. I still hope I at least answered some of your questions in a way you seem fitting. As I haven't seen any prove of either guilt or innocence, it is hard for me to judge this situation.

Re: Alright, let's get done with.

PostPosted: 28 Feb 2012, 11:42
by qreeves
I personally witnessed (from spectator mode) your client using a grenade explosion radius higher than normal in an instagib game. Each time a client controlled by you died with a grenade, it was an instant multi-kill of people who were nowhere near that position. Seeing as we never released specific information about what exactly you were caught doing, you've dug your own grave here by admitting it:
012yArthur0 {l Wrote}:I was accused from hacking, which one was "Weapon hacking". Which makes grenades , even if it miss the target, kill almost half of the people on the server.

To be clear, if I catch you doing it again, I will ban your entire network from accessing all Red Eclipse servers.

Re: Alright, let's get done with.

PostPosted: 28 Feb 2012, 17:05
by Fallen
I've seen you using that with nickname 'Greed' or smth like this - I think that many other players seen you with that. I said you that you've caught in your own trap - because bots are not controlled by server, just by random (?) clients, so bot use ideal this same vars etc as you.

I'm not trying to abuse you, I'm just telling that what I saw...

Re: Alright, let's get done with.

PostPosted: 28 Feb 2012, 17:28
by 012yArthur0
As I can say again: Chances are that is a glitch.

1. Thats a variable factor. That means it cannot happen only to me, and I witnessed a bot blowing me to pieces randomly on my noob times.
2. If I know, Variable Factors can only be changed by the moderator/admin/server owner itself.
3. Sure, the bot was from my PC, but I didn't really killed anybody with grenades of this radius. So how you can say that the bot wasn't affected by a glitch or some sort?

Edit: And yes, I was Greed[Wazu] for a short time. Ban me if you guys want, but tell me quick because It will make me faster to look for another game.

Re: Alright, let's get done with.

PostPosted: 28 Feb 2012, 17:31
by 012yArthur0
qreeves {l Wrote}:I personally witnessed (from spectator mode) your client using a grenade explosion radius higher than normal in an instagib game. Each time a client controlled by you died with a grenade, it was an instant multi-kill of people who were nowhere near that position. Seeing as we never released specific information about what exactly you were caught doing, you've dug your own grave here by admitting it:
012yArthur0 {l Wrote}:I was accused from hacking, which one was "Weapon hacking". Which makes grenades , even if it miss the target, kill almost half of the people on the server.

To be clear, if I catch you doing it again, I will ban your entire network from accessing all Red Eclipse servers.


Btw, I said that I was accused by weapon hacking because fallen told me what was happening on the game. So it wasn't a suicide-statement as you may think.

Re: Alright, let's get done with.

PostPosted: 29 Feb 2012, 01:10
by qreeves
012yArthur0 {l Wrote}:As I can say again: Chances are that is a glitch.

It is not a glitch, there is no way this can happen unless you are using a modified client. Cheating is cheating, end of story. This conversation is over and done with, as I said, if it happens again, you will be banned; no questions asked.

I know that this is a bit of a persistent but...

PostPosted: 01 Mar 2012, 01:20
by 012yArthur0
About my "Hacking accusation", can you say what map it was? Because I was doing somethings on my settings when I was playing so I'm not sure if it is really it.

Re: I know that this is a bit of a persistent but...

PostPosted: 01 Mar 2012, 02:00
by qreeves
I closed the topic because the matter is not up for discussion, I am not going to keep arguing about it. If you persist, I will just have you banned from the forums too. I don't appreciate you creating a new topic when I tried to put a stop to the old one. I know what happens in cases like this, you won't be satisfied until you make everyone believe you aren't hacking; there is only one way to do that - don't do it again - easy. You won't be banned again then.