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Ticket #92 New weapon

PostPosted: 28 Dec 2011, 12:15
by kr1egsgott
quin {l Wrote}:* Ice and/or electric weapon
* Stuns players, does minor damage
* Puts out fire? (ice)
* Fire un-stuns?


Should be discussed here imo.

My suggestion:
A weapon which fires an electric bold which stunns enemies & pulls them to you like a lasso?

This weapon would also need a secondary:
Whip with damage & hitpush.

With power (needs to be charged some time like the plasma-secondary)
Power defines the "Degree".
Full Power -> 360° Whip
Half Power -> 180° Whip

Re: Ticket #92 New weapon

PostPosted: 28 Dec 2011, 14:01
by TheLastProject
My suggestion after getting Sanctum gifted by a friend and noticing how awesome the Freeze Gun in that game is (not forgetting the fact that the Plasma Rifle already looks a lot like a freeze gun).

Name: Stunner
Primary fire: Stunning bolt that has to be aimed and takes a few seconds until it can be reused (think: Rifle Primary Fire). Freezes the enemy on their place for 2 seconds (in which time their stamina and health won't recover) and can be reused after 3 seconds. Being hit by this attack also cancels wallrunning and wallclimbing, causing you to fall down if you're busy doing that.
Secondary fire: Fires a yellow bolt (Plasma Gun style) that slows everyone caught into it down by a lot (50%?, try /gamespeed 50 to try out how that feels) for about 5 seconds. Can only be used once every 10 seconds.

(Of course, values will have to be tweaked to what fits best, this is just a general idea. None of the attacks do any damage, making it more of a combo weapon, hit someone -> kill them with something else.)

Re: Ticket #92 New weapon

PostPosted: 28 Dec 2011, 17:44
by inpersona64
TheLastProject {l Wrote}:(Of course, values will have to be tweaked to what fits best, this is just a general idea. None of the attacks do any damage, making it more of a combo weapon, hit someone -> kill them with something else.)

This idea actually reminds me of the thread about the shield weapon we had a while back. The idea, which i thought, was of a weapon that realistically did NO damage at all. It was a weapon that provoked use of another weapon, sort of like a side weapon. This weapon could be used in a similar way, though I'd love to hear other opinions on it. The most interesting thing I found in this weapon is the fact that it changes one person's particular gamespeed. Is that possible with weapons?

Re: Ticket #92 New weapon

PostPosted: 28 Dec 2011, 21:56
by TheLastProject
inpersona64 {l Wrote}:
TheLastProject {l Wrote}:(Of course, values will have to be tweaked to what fits best, this is just a general idea. None of the attacks do any damage, making it more of a combo weapon, hit someone -> kill them with something else.)

This idea actually reminds me of the thread about the shield weapon we had a while back. The idea, which i thought, was of a weapon that realistically did NO damage at all. It was a weapon that provoked use of another weapon, sort of like a side weapon. This weapon could be used in a similar way, though I'd love to hear other opinions on it. The most interesting thing I found in this weapon is the fact that it changes one person's particular gamespeed. Is that possible with weapons?

There already is a command built into the game that changes the gamespeed. At the moment there is no code for a weapon to do so as far as I'm aware, but it shouldn't be an impossible task. The hardest part would be to get it to only affect one person I would suppose. If the no damage turns out as a bad idea, it could always become a low amount of damage, but I don't think it should do a lot of damage as it already has its power somewhere else.

Re: Ticket #92 New weapon

PostPosted: 29 Dec 2011, 18:02
by arand
I think one needs to be very careful with "disabling" effects in weapons. Completely freezing someone, regardless of how short the period, is comparable to forcing game hangs, which I don't think wold be fun even if it is a game mechanic. "Oh, I cant do anything now, fun", is something to be avoided.

Hence I'm strongly opposing freezing, and also for similar reasons mildly opposing slowing players as a common occurrence via a weapon.

Random (crappy) ideas not affecting movement:
  • freeze/weakening effect makes other weapons (except fire?) make more damage, i.e. it's a support weapon, freezer+pistol is more effective than freezer alone
  • Chain lightning which jumps if second opponent is less than a certain distance from opponent being fired at
  • Lightning beam not interrupted by opponents, (...not by walls?), still range limited.
  • Beams of lightning extending in multiple directions from gun (half cirlce? secondary fire candidate?)
  • Cloaking field/other fancy non-combat ability for secondary fire (may go against the ability-sparse style of RE?).

Re: Ticket #92 New weapon

PostPosted: 29 Dec 2011, 19:11
by greaserpirate
How about a Scorpion-style grappling hook? There was already a grappling hook mod for Sauer, and with negative hitpush the "grab enemies and pull them toward you" effect shouldn't be too hard.