FreeGameDev

Hey all,

There have been literally 50+ updates to the bleeding edge version of Red Eclipse (including support for multi) in the last 2 weeks. Everyone should be checking this out and providing feedback. I hear frequently that people can't (or don't have time learn to) use SVN. This is the easy way to obtain bleeding edge Red Eclipse for Windows without using SVN:

1. Get 7-zip from http://www.7-zip.org/ (this will allow you to decompress tar.gz files on Windows).
2. Download the most recent revision here http://redeclipse.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/redeclipse/?view=tar
3. Decompress the tar.gz archive and play!

Quin generally keeps the .exe binaries up to date in the repository, so this should have you up to speed. I keep an up-to-date server running as well. Whenever a new revision is released, you'll have to repeat this process. I'm planning on looking over all of the recent updates when I get home and writing up an overview that I'll share here

Edit: Also, you can read over the recent changes yourself at http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/redeclipse/timeline

Bob

I was thinking about posting this test test test. I test it every days offline but It would be good to test it online for balance and network issues...

Playing with bots is nothing like humans... Balance issues are not clear against AI.

I propose http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SVN+TEST&iso=20111119T01&p1=195&ah=5

Also using a SVN client is better in most cases, but compressed folder can do it when lazy.

If someone could explain SVN to me and how to do it correctly, I would be happy to implement this. People keep saying its simple, but last time i tried to do it, I know i messed up somewhere because RE kept crashing.

Another thought: Someone could Teamviewer and do it for me! <-- I like this one better

inpersona64 {l Wrote}:If someone could explain SVN to me and how to do it correctly, I would be happy to implement this. People keep saying its simple, but last time i tried to do it, I know i messed up somewhere because RE kept crashing.

Another thought: Someone could Teamviewer and do it for me! <-- I like this one better

A lot of people are confused by SVN, and learning it is a lot to ask of someone to help play test the game. The instructions above don't require SVN, just download and unzip, which was my motivation for posting it. But yes, using an SVN client is a better idea if you know how or want to take the time to learn.

Hehe, I used tarball until I had to commit stuffs.

I'm pondering if it would be worthwhile to do a portable sfx archive with an svn client preconfigured...

Or just improve the tutorial on the wiki to include pretty little diagrams demonstrating it step-by-step?

Seems to me that most people don't want to download unfamiliar programs (such as SVN clients) or learn new concepts (like version control). Could work something like this: Download a launcher that pulls the latest build from the repo. When you run the launcher, it syncs with the repo prior to launching the game and provides a list of new updates. Maybe also includes some mechanism for providing feedback. Seems like that would make it as easy as possible for people to help play test (and should be a pretty simple program to write using goodies like the subversion client api http://rapidsvn.tigris.org/svncpp.html)

qreeves {l Wrote}:Or just improve the tutorial on the wiki to include pretty little diagrams demonstrating it step-by-step?

I like diagrams!
I'm not 5 tho..i just like pretty things.

It's not only unfamiliarity, but also that you can't play on the v1.1 servers anymore, or isn't that true?

You can keep the 1.1 installed, and have 1.2 in another folder

orbitaldecay {l Wrote}:Could work something like this: Download a launcher that pulls the latest build from the repo. When you run the launcher, it syncs with the repo prior to launching the game and provides a list of new updates. Maybe also includes some mechanism for providing feedback. Seems like that would make it as easy as possible for people to help play test (and should be a pretty simple program to write using goodies like the subversion client api http://rapidsvn.tigris.org/svncpp.html)

I want to try making this, because I am in desperate need of learning C++ implementation, but I can't guarantee I'll be able to make it quickly (I'm gonna try my damnedest to actually make it) So if someone else is interested, they can probably do it faster, so yeah.
Rest assured, you have at least 1 person interested in this.

Personally, I don't see how SVN is all that difficult, especially if you use Tortoise. All you have to do is make a "RedEclipseSVN" folder, and (with Tortoise installed) right click and make a repo, enter the URL given on the wiki, follow the rest of the instructions, and then whenever you want to update the SVN version, you just right click the folder again and do SVN Update.

By the way, for the resourceful SVN user, if you look at the reclient arguments, you will see you can change the home directory in the batch file to launch it. Instead of "-h%RE_DIR%", use "-hhome" or some other path. "-hhome" will set the home directory for the SVN client to be right inside that same directory, under "home". So it'll look like:

{l Code}: {l Select All Code}

RedEclipseSVN >
    bin
    data
    home >
        * where you put maps, sounds; where config.cfg resides, etc.
    src
    ...

That way you can play 1.1 and SVN interchangeably, without worrying about messing up your settings. Porting over 1.1 settings is as easy as copying your config.cfg file over to the SVN home dir.

I think I'll add a section about this on the wiki under the SVN info in a few hours when I'm out of class.
Which reminds me, I should work on the Vars page too ._. Shame on me for slacking! ; -;

[EDIT]
BTW, if I had internet full time, I would be testing SVN for you guys all the time. Unfortunately, I can't do that much :(
Though I do submit bugs and glitches whenever I can, as quin knows from me on the tracker ;)

[EDIT2]
Brainstorming title ideas...

• "Red Eclipse EZSVN Tool"?
• "Red Eclipse Dev Test Tool"?
• " RE SVN Playtester Utility"?

Just a few ideas. Current working title is the first. I may refer to it as REEZSVN... I like how that looks

I have the SVN running, used svn up, tried to connect to the Orbitaldecay SVN server, could not connect because I was at version 211 and the server at 212. Well, so far from testing there.

TheLastProject {l Wrote}:I have the SVN running, used svn up, tried to connect to the Orbitaldecay SVN server, could not connect because I was at version 211 and the server at 212. Well, so far from testing there.

Bleeding edge is using network protocol version 212. If you were at 211, then it could not have been the most recent SVN version What directory did you run svn up from? (should have been the base red eclipse directory, not src) Also, if you're not on Windows, you'll need to rebuild the client.

Quin is always compiling sources for each update, so the compiled exe should be update.
I just connect to OrbitalSVN with last SVN. You should update and try again (make sure you don't launch Supernova)

orbitaldecay {l Wrote}:

TheLastProject {l Wrote}:I have the SVN running, used svn up, tried to connect to the Orbitaldecay SVN server, could not connect because I was at version 211 and the server at 212. Well, so far from testing there.

Bleeding edge is using network protocol version 212. If you were at 211, then it could not have been the most recent SVN version What directory did you run svn up from? (should have been the base red eclipse directory, not src) Also, if you're not on Windows, you'll need to rebuild the client.

Found out about the rebuilding on the forum. This is the kind of stuff that should also be on the wiki, but whatever :P It works now.

ZeroKnight {l Wrote}:I think I'll add a section about this on the wiki under the SVN info in a few hours when I'm out of class.

TheLastProject {l Wrote}:

orbitaldecay {l Wrote}:Also, if you're not on Windows, you'll need to rebuild the client.

Found out about the rebuilding on the forum. This is the kind of stuff that should also be on the wiki, but whatever :P It works now.

How's this, guys?
https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ ... nt_version

Remember, I also added that bit about the settings ;)

ZeroKnight {l Wrote}:

ZeroKnight {l Wrote}:I think I'll add a section about this on the wiki under the SVN info in a few hours when I'm out of class.

TheLastProject {l Wrote}:

orbitaldecay {l Wrote}:Also, if you're not on Windows, you'll need to rebuild the client.

Found out about the rebuilding on the forum. This is the kind of stuff that should also be on the wiki, but whatever :P It works now.

How's this, guys?
https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ ... nt_version

Remember, I also added that bit about the settings

Not sure why you're quoting me, seeing as I am a GNU/Linux user and there is no info about how to rebuild the client there :P
Also, I found out about it on the IRC, not forum... I make mistakes when I'm tired =/

ZeroKnight {l Wrote}:

ZeroKnight {l Wrote}:I think I'll add a section about this on the wiki under the SVN info in a few hours when I'm out of class.

TheLastProject {l Wrote}:

orbitaldecay {l Wrote}:Also, if you're not on Windows, you'll need to rebuild the client.

Found out about the rebuilding on the forum. This is the kind of stuff that should also be on the wiki, but whatever :P It works now.

How's this, guys?
https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ ... nt_version

Remember, I also added that bit about the settings

Nice job Zero

I took a swing at the wiki as well, should hopefully be clear enough for the GNU/Linux svn+compile part of it, and I split the tandem settings thing into it's own header, with win/*nix sections.

Hope it's an improvement.

A new event :
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/f ... 1=195&ah=3

Let's meet on Orbi sever. (or propose another hour)

LuckyStrike-Rx {l Wrote}:A new event :
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/f ... 1=195&ah=3

Let's meet on Orbi sever. (or propose another hour)

I'll be able to be there at the event start, but I won't be able to stay for those three hours, most likely only for about 1 to 1,5 hours.

Same for me 1 or 2h max

arand {l Wrote}:Hope it's an improvement.

I think so ;) Good job, arand

LuckyStrike-Rx {l Wrote}:A new event :
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/f ... 1=195&ah=3

Let's meet on Orbi sever. (or propose another hour)

Why don't we make this a weekly event? SVN Sundays?