"Millions of Monsters" using art from "Ancient beast"?

"Millions of Monsters" using art from "Ancient beast"?

Postby KIAaze » 26 Jun 2014, 00:27

I just noticed this game on steam today:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f ... =271711722

The picture on the right immediately looked familiar to me and after checking it is indeed the same as the Vulcan from Ancient Beast:
http://ancientbeast.com/units/#Vulcan

I don't have time to look further into it at the moment, but just letting you know in case this is infringing on any licensing issues.

edit: Ok, looks like it's CC-BY-SA, so I guess only credit is needed.
I posted here as well: http://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/co ... ame_check/
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Re: "Millions of Monsters" using art from "Ancient beast"?

Postby Dread Knight » 26 Jun 2014, 06:18

Nice find. Seems to me he's using more than one artwork from the project and quite a few things under CC licenses.
Usually people don't bother with crediting much, will see if he did xD
I should probably look into reddit as well and perhaps post about the project soon, still need to patch some things.
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Re: "Millions of Monsters" using art from "Ancient beast"?

Postby KIAaze » 26 Jun 2014, 08:42

Well, he replied for the Vulcan, which was made by the famous FOSS using artist David Revoy:
http://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/co ... ck/cih4wxz

But yes, he should give credit somewhere. I guess he doesn't bother at the moment, since it's placeholder art and there isn't any release yet.

P.S.: You should improve the linking between your various sites:
http://www.freezingmoon.org/
http://ancientbeast.com/
https://github.com/FreezingMoon/AncientBeast

I could only find the github repo via google and most of the freezingmoon.org links seem to give errors.

It also took me some time to figure out where you credit the artists. Finally found the link to wuala from the units list with the filename indicating the source.
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Re: "Millions of Monsters" using art from "Ancient beast"?

Postby charlie » 26 Jun 2014, 10:12

He may not have released his game yet but he's still touting it on Steam; he's publicly using the artwork. He should be giving appropriate credit.

Also "placeholder" artwork... I highly doubt he will replace all the Ancient Beast artwork because it is high quality.
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Re: "Millions of Monsters" using art from "Ancient beast"?

Postby Dread Knight » 26 Jun 2014, 14:21

KIAaze {l Wrote}:Well, he replied for the Vulcan, which was made by the famous FOSS using artist David Revoy:
http://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/co ... ck/cih4wxz

But yes, he should give credit somewhere. I guess he doesn't bother at the moment, since it's placeholder art and there isn't any release yet.

P.S.: You should improve the linking between your various sites:
http://www.freezingmoon.org/
http://ancientbeast.com/
https://github.com/FreezingMoon/AncientBeast

I could only find the github repo via google and most of the freezingmoon.org links seem to give errors.

It also took me some time to figure out where you credit the artists. Finally found the link to wuala from the units list with the filename indicating the source.


Linking will get improved pretty soon, will also make a credits page. I have a lot of patches going on locally, hopefully will focus and finish them soon.
Ancient Beast website is linking Freezing Moon in the footer, while Freezing Moon is linking Ancient Beast on the homepage, maybe not that obvious.
I need to mention the github and wuala repositories again and perhaps mention the licenses even more and provide more information about contributing.
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charlie {l Wrote}:He may not have released his game yet but he's still touting it on Steam; he's publicly using the artwork. He should be giving appropriate credit.

Also "placeholder" artwork... I highly doubt he will replace all the Ancient Beast artwork because it is high quality.


Yeah, but people make that very low priority, like KIAaze said, I only mention names in wuala mainly and in the gallery as part of the name, no proper credits page yet.
I agree, as it's rather damn expensive to get new one anyway, he'll probably end up using even more, but it's okish as his game is not a complete copycat.
Sometimes people email me asking stuff like "how much so that I can use this asset?" and I say it's free, but you can donate and they're like "I will!" and I'm still waiting lol.
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Re: "Millions of Monsters" using art from "Ancient beast"?

Postby Dread Knight » 05 Jul 2014, 10:33

I've left him a reply http://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/co ... ck/cip0qvh
Considering Vulcan artwork is based on Ancient Beast artwork, permission from artist only doesn't cut it according to the license.
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