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A different kind of level!

PostPosted: 31 Jul 2020, 09:24
by chalimo
Hello,
I made this level where you have to think and discover all the tricks so that you complete it.
I didn´t put any effort in the design, but i like the result... it´s a different kind of level.
The execution isn´t very hard, it´s all about knowing what to do.
Remember: it´s possible to complete the level.
If you have questions, please reply!

Re: A different kind of level!

PostPosted: 31 Jul 2020, 20:25
by DevonST
You forgot to attach the level file.

Re: A different kind of level!

PostPosted: 02 Aug 2020, 08:54
by chalimo
I hope this time the level is attached!

By the way: there aren´t invisible objects in the level.

Re: A different kind of level!

PostPosted: 02 Aug 2020, 15:39
by chalimo
With the advise of DevonST here is a level1.zip
If anybody completes the level, please let me know.

Re: A different kind of level!

PostPosted: 02 Aug 2020, 16:53
by Lorenzo der seltsame
Hello, SuperTux community the level was not to hard
to be finished... I only hat to restart 5 or 6 times
and in 5 minutes I made it to the finish...

I promise I didn't cheat!!!

if someone wants to know how I did it, just ask...


Lorenzo.................

Re: A different kind of level!

PostPosted: 03 Aug 2020, 08:46
by DevonST
I finished it! Didn’t need all of the powerups, though…

My solution:
1. Get bottom powerup
2. Damage boost through rotating ice balls
3. Get any of the two powerups; then duck jump through the small tunnel next to the bomb
4. Drop trampoline below jumping snowball to free him
5. Use snowball to jump over the barrier on the left while carrying the trampoline
6. Get fireflower by duck sliding under the bonus block
7. Ride icecrusher to the top and use trampoline to jump back
8. Break brick block with icecube. This allows the cannon to push the Jumpy over
9. Damage boost and pick up the icecube to break the final wall

Re: A different kind of level!

PostPosted: 03 Aug 2020, 14:41
by Lorenzo der seltsame
I found a diferent solution!!!
I'm gonna upload a video...
be patient...

Lorenzo.............

Re: A different kind of level!

PostPosted: 04 Aug 2020, 09:21
by chalimo
Once again with DevonST help, i have made a small change in the level to try that Tux big can´t pass the tunnel!

Here is the new version.

Re: A different kind of level!

PostPosted: 04 Aug 2020, 19:30
by DevonST
I found an amazing solution that does not require getting the fireflower. See my recording. It’s probably cheese.

Re: A different kind of level!

PostPosted: 05 Aug 2020, 11:44
by chalimo
Congratulations! You´re very close to my solution.
Once again, you have showed me some mistakes in the level, so i have made some changes.

I never thougt of throwing the tampoline near the icecrusher... i have used it in this version, but the execution is more simple.

You only need to discover two tricks!

So here is the latest version!

Re: A different kind of level!

PostPosted: 06 Aug 2020, 17:01
by DevonST
Your changes made the level easier. I only needed one trampoline. If I brought the second trampoline, the execution would be simpler as you said.

Re: A different kind of level!

PostPosted: 06 Aug 2020, 17:24
by Lorenzo der seltsame
SuperTux community, finally a link with the video:

https://youtu.be/NlqAfNBiaAA

Enjoy the different solution!

And tell me what you think.

Lorenzo................

Re: A different kind of level!

PostPosted: 06 Aug 2020, 19:10
by chalimo
To DevonST:
By mistake I uploaded a level with a second trampoline I was using to test the level.
I see you use the icecrusher to help the ball go through.
I hope this time I upload the rigth level.
See if you can get the tampoline up there...

To Lorenzo:
I like very much your solution!
As you can see mine was more like the one that DevonST uses.

To both:
I haven´t decided if I am going to leave the level as it is (with two solutions) here in puzzle.zip or change it.
What´s your opinion?

Re: A different kind of level!

PostPosted: 07 Aug 2020, 13:28
by DevonST
@chalimo The new puzzle.zip contains the same level you posted earlier. Getting the other trampoline is no problem, though: Just place the icecube on the ground and use it as a platform.

@Lorenzo: It’s impressive how you duck-jumped into the one-tile gap using the trampoline!

Shameless plug: You can download the worldmap for my puzzle levels here.

Re: A different kind of level!

PostPosted: 07 Aug 2020, 14:55
by chalimo
To DevonST:

Followig what you said, i used the icecube, but after he went to the right... and you need him to break the box in the first part of the level. What do you do next?

Once again i try to upload the level without the second trampoline! (and a small change)

Re: A different kind of level!

PostPosted: 08 Aug 2020, 09:43
by DevonST
My solution using all items in the level. Even if you know how to solve the level, it is still easy to mess it up. Keep that in mind when making future levels.

Edit your first post, so that new visitors do not need to scroll down to find the best version of your level.

Re: A different kind of level!

PostPosted: 08 Aug 2020, 10:12
by chalimo
Thanks for the advice.

By the away: near the bomb, my intention was to kill the bomb with Tux big, pick it up, do the "back jump" and when the bomb explodes Tux becomes small.

I don´t know what to do with the level. You have help me a lot. If you want to use it or some ideas, You can.

I had some ideas to make another level where you have to think. But I don´t know... it consumes a lot of time!

I saw some of your levels... I liked then... Especially the "I like to Throw it, Throw it".

Re: A different kind of level!

PostPosted: 10 Aug 2020, 18:23
by Lorenzo der seltsame
Hi, SuperTux community!

I have done a play through of the latest update of the
puzzle level, here is the link to the video:

https://youtu.be/iMRNGqUY7uA


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Re: A different kind of level!

PostPosted: 12 Aug 2020, 11:29
by chalimo
Final version?!?

Re: A different kind of level!

PostPosted: 16 Aug 2020, 10:17
by DevonST
See my recording.

* The unstable tile is hard to see on the background and very small. Change the sprite to a blue platform and make the jump easier.
* Remove the bomb and the brick blocks you need to destroy using the bomb. What the player needs to do is obvious but executing it is tedious.
* I got bad luck at the end: The kamikaze snow balls did not push the Jumpy and I could not spawn new ones because I was so far to the right. Reduce the vertical distance to the canon (e.g. by slowing the player down between the forced-damage sections) and replace the luck-based Jumpy. You could for example jump off the kamikaze snow ball to jump over a high wall.
* Use spikes instead of rotating balls.

Re: A different kind of level!

PostPosted: 16 Aug 2020, 17:44
by chalimo
Thanks for the feedback!

I can´t find the blue platform. Maybe there isn´t in my level editor.

I removed the brick blocks, and put that part in the previous way.

In the end, in the first pit where you catch the ball, you must look to the left and right to make sure that the kamikaze balls push the jumpy.

I can´t use spikes because they kill ice cubes.

I also made some changes because after the ball goes above the ice crusher there a little trick to make it go the right way.