New Ice in the Hole is ugly

New Ice in the Hole is ugly

Postby brmbrmcar » 29 Mar 2016, 10:33

Am I the only one? Right at the start, by a secret.
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    The tiles are not done properly.
    There are too many invisible blocks to get there.
    The door is by the roof. In the story, it is the first door to be seen, so should be usable with an explanation first.
    The door also transports to a secret, but is fully visible on one end but not the other.

Am I over-complaining? Or is something not right?

I was told to put this here.
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Re: New Ice in the Hole is ugly

Postby MCMic » 29 Mar 2016, 16:43

This looks really weird, is that the development version?
It’s way better in 0.4.0, with hidden platforms in the wall and no door.

(see http://mcmic.haxx.es/speedrun/supertux_ ... ehole.webm for instance)
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Re: New Ice in the Hole is ugly

Postby brmbrmcar » 29 Mar 2016, 17:45

It is in the development versions. I made a video of it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN4HqXNx5HE
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Re: New Ice in the Hole is ugly

Postby Serano » 29 Mar 2016, 19:29

I think it's better than before. Running in front of the wall looked more weird than it is now. ;)
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Re: New Ice in the Hole is ugly

Postby brmbrmcar » 29 Mar 2016, 19:32

"In the story, it is the first door to be seen, so should be usable with an explanation first."

I think that is the biggest issue. Could the secret be removed altogether?
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Re: New Ice in the Hole is ugly

Postby MCMic » 01 Apr 2016, 17:45

I find it really ugly. I can see running in front of the wall was weird but that can be fixed by making a path appearing like the other secrets do, no need for a door, and the hidden blocks in the wall were better.
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Re: New Ice in the Hole is ugly

Postby brmbrmcar » 01 Apr 2016, 18:18

I do think it should be removed altogether. But the people with access to the repos seem to disagree. I had a solution, which was rejected.
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Re: New Ice in the Hole is ugly

Postby MCMic » 02 Apr 2016, 05:08

I don’t want it to be removed, I use it in the speedrun :-D
But if now it uses hidden block that I have to push from bellow first, it will become too slow to be used in speedrun I guess :-/ (Or maybe not, just saw that the door does a teleportation)

Wow, but I see in your video they also removed the whole second part of the skip which was way longer :-/
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Re: New Ice in the Hole is ugly

Postby brmbrmcar » 02 Apr 2016, 09:05

I'm sort of glad they did remove the second part, because it made the level too easy
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Re: New Ice in the Hole is ugly

Postby brmbrmcar » 08 Apr 2016, 20:51

And speedruns should be an actual challenge, not just a case of reaction times...
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Re: New Ice in the Hole is ugly

Postby brmbrmcar » 21 Jan 2018, 21:59

I have created a pull request to fix this hopefully.
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