Instant tilling texture/tiles previev in image editor

Instant tilling texture/tiles previev in image editor

Postby qubodup » 08 Jan 2010, 09:00

Hey,

I just saw a new screenshot of Hero of Allacrost and noticed the stone texture not tilling very well. So I asked myself: what editor to use, that would provide an instant tiled preview of a texture/tile I'm working on?
workit.png
kind of what I'm after
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GIMP has the tile filter but it takes too much time selecting it and waiting for the output to appear.

A rather uncomfortable but effective solution is creating a html file:
{l Code}: {l Select All Code}
<html><body background-image="image.png"></body></html>

and opening it in a browser window and configuring it to reload every second. This way I would just have to hit Ctrl+S in my image editor to see the tiled result 0 to 1 seconds later.

Does anybody know a tile editor, that has a tiled preview?
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Re: Instant tilling texture/tiles previev in image editor

Postby amuzen » 08 Jan 2010, 11:28

Perhaps not exactly what you're looking for, but I tried to script some helpers for GIMP. The attached plug-in creates a Filters/Tiling/ menu with two tools in it that can be bound to keys or torn normally:

  • Quick Tile creates a 2x2 tiled image of the current layer without showing an annoying dialog.
  • Displace Seams does the same and then crops a part the same size as the original layer from the center of the new image so that you don't need a preview to see the seam.

Disclaimer: It's my second GIMP plug-in so it might explode when you least expect it. :p

{l Code}: {l Select All Code}
mkdir -p ~/.gimp-2.6/plug-ins/
cp tiling.py ~/.gimp-2.6/plug-ins/
chmod ug+x ~/.gimp-2.6/plug-ins/tiling.py
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Re: Instant tilling texture/tiles previev in image editor

Postby Julius » 08 Jan 2010, 13:37

http://www.aseprite.org/

this has a feature called "Tiled drawing mode to draw patterns and textures" but I have not tested it.
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Re: Instant tilling texture/tiles previev in image editor

Postby qubodup » 08 Jan 2010, 14:19

amuzen: It is cool that you solved the issue for yourself. I find my HTML approach more comfortable for me, as my image editor will keep window focus when I use it.

Julius {l Wrote}:http://www.aseprite.org/

this has a feature called "Tiled drawing mode to draw patterns and textures" but I have not tested it.

This sounds awesome but I wasn't able to find that function. I only found a "tiled preview" (F8) that fills the window with the tile (and hides it after the next mouseclick/keypress). This is not bad, but I would prefer having a separate preview, so I could make changes while looking at the tiled preview. Also, the preview has the same zoom level, which I use during editing, so I have to make another keypress.
Thanks for the link though, I don't remember seeing/trying this editor. It has a nice style and provides a lovely GUI-less drawing mode.

I searched a little and (re-)found Tile Studio (Win only). It does have a tiled preview:
tile_studio.png

I very much dislike using Wine, but so far this software seems to provide the best solution.

Pixen (Mac only) seems to have a tiled preview (don't know if it interfers with editing or not):
Pixen's tile view allows you to check out your seams in realtime—without limiting your editing abilities in any way.

But as I said, Mac only :(

JDraw has a preview area next to the editing area but no tiled preview functionality.

Conclusion: request linux ports of Tile Studio and Pixen (probably tons of work), request a draw-in-tiled-preview-mode-mode in ASE, request tiled preview for JDraw (this might be actually easy to do! :D )
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Re: Instant tilling texture/tiles previev in image editor

Postby charlie » 08 Jan 2010, 16:11

Yeah, ask the JDraw guys if they would do it. It's a pretty simple feature to add.
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Re: Instant tilling texture/tiles previev in image editor

Postby qubodup » 09 Jan 2010, 16:28

I added a JDraw feature request. There was no development action for nearly two years now.

I discovered* GrafX2 and tested it too. Seems nice, especially the zoom function (you get the window split to zoomed/original and can draw in both areas) but there is no tiling view/edit function/mode. Someone already requested such a feature and I commented.

I wanted to fill in a ASE feature request, but now SF.net seems broken. Edit: added.

*thanks to Google -> Ubuntu Brainstorm

On related note: I found a so far proprietary, win-only being-developed pixel editor. It seems to have a very attractive visual concept: http://www.retroidea.com/Pixe/ [thread]
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Re: Instant tilling texture/tiles previev in image editor

Postby qubodup » 22 Jan 2010, 15:59

I noticed that Pixen development seems dead (last update 2005 http://opensword.org/entries.php?type=devlogs )

It seems I'm not the first to ask for parallel tiled preview and drawing in ASE:
I will try to add something for this feature in the next release. It is
highly requested (three different people already told me something about
tiled-preview).

Currently you can split editors (use Ctrl+2 or Ctrl+3), then you can zoom
one editor (Alt+mouse wheel, or 1,2,3,4,5,6 keys). What is missing is the
possibility to see the tiled sprite in the same editor.

Ticket

Also, drawing while tiled is possible in ASE:
PS: The "Tiled" drawing mode is activated through the "Tools
Configuration" window: press "C" key, you will see a "Tiled" check-box.

It allows you to draw over the borders. pretty neat.
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