Mental health and stuff

Re: Mental health and stuff

Postby freemedia2018 » 06 Aug 2019, 18:17

Ntech {l Wrote}:Remember that the U.S. has free-speech laws.


I don't think there is any need for these people to bother Lyberta, and I'm a staunch free speech advocate, but U.S. free speech laws don't apply to this category.

You can say a lot of things, but there are exceptions. Recently they tried to make a new exception for "hate speech." SCOTUS said such laws would run afoul of the 1st amendment. But the laws don't protect against open threats of violence. Nothing I've read should qualify as such IMO, but I figure I've only read part of the comments in question.
User avatar
freemedia2018
 
Posts: 109
Joined: 21 Jul 2019, 07:30

Re: Mental health and stuff

Postby drummyfish » 06 Aug 2019, 19:05

Ntech {l Wrote}:I don't think anything done online (at a forum, etc.) could get you arrested, unless it is to DDOS/hack them. Remember that the U.S. has free-speech laws.


Seriously? Tell that to Assange :)

Am also pretty sure posting child porn, large amounts of pirated material or even just death threats can very well get you arrested.

In the US police have special departments in which cops pretend to be underage girls on the Internet and flirt with random guys on chats, try to get them to arrange a meeting where they regularly arrest them. (Not kidding, that's what police in the US does because they can't fight actual crime because criminals simply hugely outnumber them, I've seen it in some French documentary.)
socialist anarcho-pacifist
Abolish all IP laws. Use CC0.
http://www.tastyfish.cz
User avatar
drummyfish
 
Posts: 225
Joined: 29 Jul 2018, 20:30
Location: Moravia

Re: Mental health and stuff

Postby fluffrabbit » 06 Aug 2019, 20:44

The US and Russia are two completely different places. I don't see how, absent extradition arrangements, there is much inter-governmental cooperation.
fluffrabbit
 
Posts: 570
Joined: 11 Apr 2019, 11:17

Re: Mental health and stuff

Postby Ntech » 07 Aug 2019, 13:54

drummyfish {l Wrote}:Seriously? Tell that to Assange :)

I believe the basis for his extradition was his leakage of classified information, not the act of posting the information itself.

drummyfish {l Wrote}:posting child porn, large amounts of pirated material or even just death threats can very well get you arrested.
True.

drummyfish {l Wrote}:In the US police have special departments in which cops pretend to be underage girls on the Internet and flirt with random guys on chats, try to get them to arrange a meeting where they regularly arrest them.
LOL. I wouldn't want to have to be one of those officers.
Deo gratias, Ave Maria
User avatar
Ntech
 
Posts: 52
Joined: 30 May 2019, 20:40

Re: Mental health and stuff

Postby Lyberta » 09 Aug 2019, 22:36

fluffrabbit {l Wrote}:It sounds like you're a good fit for the FSB.


Funny, those are the exact guys who came for me.

Ntech {l Wrote}:Police involvement? I don't think anything done online (at a forum, etc.) could get you arrested, unless it is to DDOS/hack them. Remember that the U.S. has free-speech laws.


Death threats. Article 119 of Criminal Code of Russia. Up to 2 years in prison.

Also, US Free Speech is actually a very narrow thing.
User avatar
Lyberta
 
Posts: 643
Joined: 19 Jun 2013, 10:45

Re: Mental health and stuff

Postby fluffrabbit » 09 Aug 2019, 22:53

Gotta love Russia with their consolidated intelligence and police. Oh, but they're a free country. Just like America.
fluffrabbit
 
Posts: 570
Joined: 11 Apr 2019, 11:17

Re: Mental health and stuff

Postby Lyberta » 09 Aug 2019, 23:15

fluffrabbit {l Wrote}:Gotta love Russia with their consolidated intelligence and police. Oh, but they're a free country. Just like America.


It was a US citizen who contacted US police. Again, John Sullivan -> US police -> US embassy in Russia -> FSB.

Myself, I try to avoid Russian sites at all costs. Not much because of fear of police but because of general toxicity of people there and lack of any meaningful content.
User avatar
Lyberta
 
Posts: 643
Joined: 19 Jun 2013, 10:45

Re: Mental health and stuff

Postby fluffrabbit » 09 Aug 2019, 23:27

You take it for granted that the FSB respects American police, but you really shouldn't. I see it as a sign of Russian weakness, as the Soviet Union would have told any foreign government to F off.

I can't speak for Russian websites as I can't speak or read Russian, but I would probably avoid them for the same reasons.
fluffrabbit
 
Posts: 570
Joined: 11 Apr 2019, 11:17

Re: Mental health and stuff

Postby Julius » 15 Aug 2019, 21:04

Lyberta {l Wrote}: I'm a tranny. What do I do? The entire political spectrum hates me.


Stop thinking of the political spectrum as only left and right :shock:

Oh and I deleted your original post as we are serious about the "no more of the death treats to unspecified persons" warning we gave you :!:
User avatar
Julius
Community Moderator
 
Posts: 2677
Joined: 06 Dec 2009, 14:02

Re: Mental health and stuff

Postby Jastiv » 15 Aug 2019, 21:57

I'm a libertarian, and I have been mostly ignoring politics. Its awful with all the authoritarians talking about what rights they want to take away.
User avatar
Jastiv
 
Posts: 198
Joined: 14 Mar 2011, 02:18

Re: Mental health and stuff

Postby freemedia2018 » 16 Aug 2019, 05:11

Jastiv {l Wrote}:I'm a libertarian, and I have been mostly ignoring politics. Its awful with all the authoritarians talking about what rights they want to take away.


Same here. If you find me having a bad day, it's probably after listening to people whinge all the time about how they won't make exceptions to basic fundamental rights for idiot reason du jour. Sickening. Don't people read? No, I know...
User avatar
freemedia2018
 
Posts: 109
Joined: 21 Jul 2019, 07:30

Re: Mental health and stuff

Postby Lyberta » 17 Aug 2019, 00:42

So yesterday after being misgendered and deadnamed by my sister-in-law and my father I decided to live in the kitchen because all women must live in the kitchen, right? Didn't work though, there is no place to put bed so I would have had to sleep on the floor. So I just sat on the floor until my wife pulled me out.
User avatar
Lyberta
 
Posts: 643
Joined: 19 Jun 2013, 10:45

Re: Mental health and stuff

Postby fluffrabbit » 17 Aug 2019, 05:24

Well that's depressing. I'm fighting my own battles with platform holders, so I kinda get how you feel. I keep checking back on these forums hoping for a collaborative project I'd be interested in, but it's all either copyleft, uses some high-level framework, or doesn't compile properly, so I always return to my kitchen for coffee and oatmeal. drummyfish's small3dlib lifts the mood like nothing else, but I'm afraid of giving away code to 3D stuff since that seems to be a selling point for commercial stuff. Ah, well. Another thread on another day and I'm sure we'll all feel a lot better.
fluffrabbit
 
Posts: 570
Joined: 11 Apr 2019, 11:17

Re: Mental health and stuff

Postby drummyfish » 17 Aug 2019, 16:38

fluffrabbit {l Wrote}:drummyfish's small3dlib lifts the mood


Very glad to read this, I'll focus on making more stuff like this, I promise :)

__________________

Sorry to hear, @Lyberta.
socialist anarcho-pacifist
Abolish all IP laws. Use CC0.
http://www.tastyfish.cz
User avatar
drummyfish
 
Posts: 225
Joined: 29 Jul 2018, 20:30
Location: Moravia

Re: Mental health and stuff

Postby fluffrabbit » 17 Aug 2019, 17:52

drummyfish {l Wrote}:
fluffrabbit {l Wrote}:drummyfish's small3dlib lifts the mood
Very glad to read this, I'll focus on making more stuff like this, I promise :)

Like that, sure, but small3dlib specifically is intensely interesting. The novelty of perspective-incorrect texture mapping in an STB-style library that works with raw pixels (and on embedded systems) is something very, very interesting. Sorry to sidetrack the thread, anyhow.
fluffrabbit
 
Posts: 570
Joined: 11 Apr 2019, 11:17

Re: Mental health and stuff

Postby Lyberta » 05 Oct 2019, 00:06

I cut myself again. After that my wife has dumped all razor blades from flat. Knives don't work, at least much worse than blades. Now I'm thinking of hanging myself... What do I do?
User avatar
Lyberta
 
Posts: 643
Joined: 19 Jun 2013, 10:45

Re: Mental health and stuff

Postby Julius » 05 Oct 2019, 00:24

Obviously not hang yourself :(

I can't give you real advise for your apparently complicated life, but have you considered taking up a handicraft? Some non-computer related hobby that involves some somewhat physical activity? Maybe knitting or something like that? May sound stupid at first, but these things can be surprisingly gratifying.
User avatar
Julius
Community Moderator
 
Posts: 2677
Joined: 06 Dec 2009, 14:02

Re: Mental health and stuff

Postby DrAltaica » 05 Oct 2019, 07:18

[
drummyfish {l Wrote}:posting child porn, large amounts of pirated material or even just death threats can very well get you arrested.

THat's a Bunh I bull shit bigets shove down our throats to justify their bigotry. Child porn isn't illegal(in any civilized part of the world at lest)
User avatar
DrAltaica
 
Posts: 25
Joined: 26 Dec 2009, 14:49

Re: Mental health and stuff

Postby charlie » 18 Oct 2019, 15:00

Child porn isn't illegal(in any civilized part of the world at lest)

WTF?
Free Gamer - it's the dogz
Vexi - web UI platform
User avatar
charlie
Global Moderator
 
Posts: 2105
Joined: 02 Dec 2009, 11:56
Location: Manchester, UK

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest