Jastiv {l Wrote}:The whole social justice warrior angle is concerning to me, especially since I wrote a free-culture horror novel in 2010 that deals with this very topic, but only this year have I started to distribute it.
onpon4 {l Wrote}:This could be a new beginning for the movement.
Technopeasant {l Wrote}:I think it is a little stupid for supporters of a movement about personal liberty to get too hung up on "leadership" to begin with.
a new popular goal will be found -- such as playing along with the LGBT/feminists
onpon4 {l Wrote}:a new popular goal will be found -- such as playing along with the LGBT/feminists
I would suggest that the libre software movement fails if it contributes to discrimination against women or LGBTQ+ people, or any other minority for that matter. Speaking from my own experience, there is still a lot of sexism and transphobia, most of it just subtle enough to be out of the minds of those who are unaffected. These issues need to be addressed everywhere, and that includes the libre software movement. Just as the issue of proprietary software needs to be addressed everywhere.
drummyfish {l Wrote}:Technopeasant {l Wrote}:I think it is a little stupid for supporters of a movement about personal liberty to get too hung up on "leadership" to begin with.
Good point -- I am against authorities, I see Stallman as an example -- which he can continue to be after his presidentship, and even after his death. The issue here is about who will get to direct the force the FSF has become, and where will it be directed. They have money and power that should serve the original idea of free SW, and I am afraid that may change.
onpon4 {l Wrote}:I would suggest that the libre software movement fails if it contributes to discrimination against women or LGBTQ+ people, or any other minority for that matter.
fluffrabbit {l Wrote}:movement movement movement politics movement shut up
I like Stallman because he made GCC and other tools, nothing more. No more fucking politics in my open source, thanks.
drummyfish {l Wrote}:Actually after this discussion I am starting to think the FSF may need to die -- it has been established by an enlightened man, but it's still a western organization and movent and as such is likely doomed to go the same way as feminism and LGBT -- by executing their own founder they're proving this. I would very much like to not find myself part of such a movement. I hope something new, better, non-american will rise from these ashes.
onpon4 {l Wrote}:a new popular goal will be found -- such as playing along with the LGBT/feminists
I would suggest that the libre software movement fails if it contributes to discrimination against women or LGBTQ+ people, or any other minority for that matter. Speaking from my own experience, there is still a lot of sexism and transphobia
drummyfish {l Wrote}:The issue, and what I meant, was the LGBT/feminist fascism and superiority movements, manifesting e.g. in the form of COCs, which did result in discrimination and kicking people out of development, and which actually resulted in kicking Stallman out of the FSF.
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