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Soccer / Ice Hockey Mode (Map Should Be Rotated for Blue)

PostPosted: 12 Dec 2017, 01:36
by sphyrth
Choosing Red Team is fine. But when I choose Blue Team, then the map should be rotated to Blue's view. Everything looked upside-down to me.
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Re: Soccer / Ice Hockey Mode (Map Should Be Rotated for Blue

PostPosted: 14 Dec 2017, 01:22
by Auria
Hi, your screenshot is not loading and I'm not sure which part of the video you are referring to, could you please clarify?

Re: Soccer / Ice Hockey Mode (Map Should Be Rotated for Blue

PostPosted: 15 Dec 2017, 01:46
by sphyrth
Thanks for the info! I edited it to a screenshot. What I'm trying to say is that playing as the Blue Team in Soccer Mode feels like playing Chess as Black but I have the White pieces in front of me. At least that's what the Map is making me feel.

Re: Soccer / Ice Hockey Mode (Map Should Be Rotated for Blue

PostPosted: 15 Dec 2017, 02:23
by Auria
So you would like to start facing your own goal, rather than start facing the ball? I'm not sure I understand why you'd want that

Re: Soccer / Ice Hockey Mode (Map Should Be Rotated for Blue

PostPosted: 15 Dec 2017, 02:25
by QwertyChouskie
I think the idea is to rotate the minimap 180 degrees when playing as blue.

Re: Soccer / Ice Hockey Mode (Map Should Be Rotated for Blue

PostPosted: 15 Dec 2017, 02:37
by Auria
Ahh, the minimap? Yes that would make more sense. At the moment, though, soccer is mostly intended to be played in split-screen, so we can't rotate the minimap as all players will have different orientations. When we have networked multiplayer, this could be an interesting feature, albeit it's not very high on our list of priorities at the moment

Re: Soccer / Ice Hockey Mode (Map Should Be Rotated for Blue

PostPosted: 15 Dec 2017, 03:06
by sphyrth
Auria {l Wrote}:When we have networked multiplayer, this could be an interesting feature, albeit it's not very high on our list of priorities at the moment


Understood. Just putting it out there just in case.

Speaking of networking, I've been waiting for it since 0.7.x. It's was actually good that you guys mentioned in the Blog on why it still can't be implemented. Letting us know why it's still in the works gives me excitement and hope.

And thanks QwertyChouskie for the better explanation of what I was trying to say.

Re: Soccer / Ice Hockey Mode (Map Should Be Rotated for Blue

PostPosted: 15 Dec 2017, 12:14
by farrer
Auria {l Wrote}:Ahh, the minimap? Yes that would make more sense. At the moment, though, soccer is mostly intended to be played in split-screen, so we can't rotate the minimap as all players will have different orientations. When we have networked multiplayer, this could be an interesting feature, albeit it's not very high on our list of priorities at the moment


Why not by default rotate it 90 degrees, being horizontally oriented (and thus, somewhat team-agnostic)?

Re: Soccer / Ice Hockey Mode (Map Should Be Rotated for Blue

PostPosted: 15 Dec 2017, 13:03
by deve
In theory you can create a soccer field with 5 balls and 10 goals in random positions, so that the map orientation will be wrong anyway.

Re: Soccer / Ice Hockey Mode (Map Should Be Rotated for Blue

PostPosted: 16 Dec 2017, 01:32
by sphyrth
Well then, how about an Optional Feature: The Minimap rotates with your orientation in real-time

I personally don't like it, so I suggest it to be optional. It might even be useful for the Racing Modes.

Re: Soccer / Ice Hockey Mode (Map Should Be Rotated for Blue

PostPosted: 16 Dec 2017, 10:50
by farrer
deve {l Wrote}:In theory you can create a soccer field with 5 balls and 10 goals in random positions, so that the map orientation will be wrong anyway.


Fair enough.

sphyrth {l Wrote}:Well then, how about an Optional Feature: The Minimap rotates with your orientation in real-time

I personally don't like it, so I suggest it to be optional. It might even be useful for the Racing Modes.


From what I've seen from the code, that would be not trivial to implement (the easiest is to define and pass a "player-is-facing-that-direction" angle to drawImage), especially when what is said about the soccer-mode being most suited for split-screen play (where more than one player is actively seeing the same minimap, which would be the direction to choose?, etc).

Re: Soccer / Ice Hockey Mode (Map Should Be Rotated for Blue

PostPosted: 17 Dec 2017, 03:55
by QwertyChouskie
Or maybe add a small "headlight" to the icon like MK Wii: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ24U4jl1Hg