reverse tracks: wrong direction of arrows

reverse tracks: wrong direction of arrows

Postby Wuzzy » 18 Dec 2012, 07:14

0.8.0 introduced reverse tracks.

I noticed on those tracks which have arrows of some kind all those arrows point in the wrong direction if you play in reverse. I don't write the names of these tracks here because this is true for all reversible tracks which have at lease one arrow. This alone would be just a bit annoying, but not that bad. But also the direction of the turbo arrows goes to the false direction but for some funny reason you still get a turbo boost, no matter from which direction you touch that arrow. This is not surprising as that's exactly what the word "reverse" means.
But I think it would be nice if the game just flips the arrow direction would flip automatically if you are playing in reverse mode.
I guess almost everything on a track could be an arrow, right? It could be just a texture but also a model.

Now here's my question:
Is it even possible to make small changes to the track so that the arrow directions are correct again? Is that possible without having to copy the entire track just to make a "reverse version with the correct direction of the arrows" of it. ;)
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Re: reverse tracks: wrong direction of arrows

Postby Alayan » 18 Dec 2012, 12:55

It is because the arrows you see on the tracks are just textures.
If there are not correctly applied you can have this : Image
And there is no dependance between the direction of the arrow and the boosting : whatever direction you come from, your speed will be boost.
The texture which is applied on the boosting area is not linked to the speed boost.

I don't know if there is a way to have arrow pointing always to the good direction without using a copy of the track for the reverse version. :x
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more examples

Postby Wuzzy » 18 Dec 2012, 16:51

Here are some screenshots for illustration:

Snow Peak:
SnowPeak_reverse.jpg
Snow Peak (reverse): The arrows point to the wrong direction.


The Island:
TheIsland_sign_forward.jpg
The Island (forward): a sign

TheIsland_sign_reverse.jpg
The Island (reverse): The same sign from above. But from this side, it is invisible.

TheIsland_arrow_forward.jpg
The Island (forward): an arrow

TheIsland_arrow_reverse.jpg
The Island (reverse): the same arrow from the other side. It seems the texture is missing. It's a nice coincidence that the arrow points to the correct direction.


Probably The Island could be fixed easily with some minor adjustments to the map. The sign problem could be fixed by adding another sign on the backside of it, showing a straight arrow. The arror problem could be fixed by applying a texture the the backside, too. The Island seems to be the exception in the game, as for most maps with arrows I don't see a trivial solution.

Probably this means that a change in the game engine is required …
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Re: reverse tracks: wrong direction of arrows

Postby hiker » 19 Dec 2012, 00:09

Wuzzy {l Wrote}:Is it even possible to make small changes to the track so that the arrow directions are correct again? Is that possible without having to copy the entire track just to make a "reverse version with the correct direction of the arrows" of it. ;)

It's possible, but we consider this issue very minor, so don't expect anything soonish (which realistically means - with only two coders we won't fix it) - though we would welcome a patch of course :)

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