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Soccer Tournament

PostPosted: 20 Jul 2020, 10:43
by FabianF
Hello everyone.

In August (beginning at the end of July), there will be another Soccer Tournament and we, organizers, decided to advertize it here in the forum as well this time.

In order to participate, you will need an online account. You can register here: https://stk.kimden.online/tournament/.
Note that you will need a token to confirm that you register your own account. More information about this is also on the registration form.

The Soccer Tournament will have several randomly generated teams, each consisting of 4 players. Every match will be played in 3 games on 3 different arenas. The complete rules you will find here: https://www.luffah.xyz/wiki/supertuxkar ... 0_08_rules.

All other information about the tournament you can find on this page: https://stk.kimden.online/t.

Registration will close at around July 25th.

I hope to see you in the tournament, anyone is welcome!

Re: Soccer Tournament

PostPosted: 09 Dec 2020, 16:06
by Wuzzy
Argh, darn it! I already missed the first registration period for this year, and now I realized I just missed registration for the December Tournament as well. Oh well, at least I registered as substitute player.

I didn't even know this tournament existed before I randomly downloaded an addon. :(

But I really like this idea of the tournament, good job in setting this up! :D

Re: Soccer Tournament

PostPosted: 09 Dec 2020, 16:16
by FabianF
I should have updated this topic when we opened December tournament registration ...

Anyway, thanks for registering as substitute :-)

Re: Soccer Tournament

PostPosted: 22 Jan 2021, 15:42
by kimden
Hey, just a little update:
February Soccer Tournament registration is open, you can register at https://stk.kimden.online/tournament
The tournament page is https://luffah.xyz/tournament, you can find results at https://stk.kimden.online/soccer

Hope to see some of you in the tournament, anyone can register!

Re: Soccer Tournament

PostPosted: 08 Feb 2021, 15:41
by Soccer Tournament
We already scheduled the matches (links above) so registered players can check the dates (and tell us in case they need to change them). See you on the matches!

Re: Soccer Tournament

PostPosted: 19 Mar 2021, 14:34
by Soccer Tournament
April 2021 Soccer Tournament registration is open now. Just as before, you can register at https://stk.kimden.online/tournament
The results can be found at https://luffah.xyz/tournament and https://stk.kimden.online/soccer

Looking forward to your registrations :-)

Re: Soccer Tournament

PostPosted: 22 May 2021, 07:05
by Soccer Tournament
You can now register for June 2021 tournament - just as before, the registration form is at https://stk.kimden.online/tournament and the tournament page is https://luffah.xyz/tournament

Re: Soccer Tournament

PostPosted: 05 Jun 2021, 21:55
by Wuzzy
Today was the first match of the June 2021 Tournament. This is going to be a great tournament! :)

Re: Soccer Tournament

PostPosted: 18 Jun 2021, 17:02
by Wuzzy
I noticed something strange. Apparently the match A vs E is rated 3:1 in the crosstab. But how is that possible if only 3 games are played?

Re: Soccer Tournament

PostPosted: 19 Jun 2021, 04:43
by FabianF
It's 3:1 because there was a draw which is counted as 1:1.
So technically even 3:2 (with 2 draws) and 3:3 (with 3 draws) are possible

Re: Soccer Tournament

PostPosted: 20 Jun 2021, 07:41
by sridharkumar
I think this is unfair. Lets say that team A and B played well this tournament and they both have a score of 12:3 according to points and the number of matches they won. But if team A has a match that is drawn, then their score becomes 13:3 which is unfair to team B.

In my opinion, both teams get 1/2 points for a draw so that is fair to everyone whereas in your way of ranking, a draw will be counted as win.

Re: Soccer Tournament

PostPosted: 20 Jun 2021, 08:34
by FabianF
We can surely make a poll about this before the next tournament starts, I see the point

Re: Soccer Tournament

PostPosted: 20 Jun 2021, 10:08
by kimden
1. It is 13:4
2. It is not unfair as we compare only the differences of won and lost games, draws do not affect that

Re: Soccer Tournament

PostPosted: 20 Jun 2021, 13:16
by sridharkumar
Ok, i get it. So there not difference whether it is 12:3 or 13:4 right?

Re: Soccer Tournament

PostPosted: 21 Jun 2021, 08:16
by kimden
When comparing teams, no.

Re: Soccer Tournament

PostPosted: 03 Jul 2021, 21:25
by Wuzzy
Thanks to everyone who made this tournament possible. It's a great idea with great execution. Although I wish players would play more reliably ...
I wonder when the next tournament will start.

Congratulations to Team B for the win of the June tournament, you were just too strong. :D But we in Team D still came in 2nd, woohoo!

EDIT: For the next tournament I suggest to ban Las Dunas Soccer Stadium because it's an inherently unfair map (just look at the weird asymmetrial shape).

EDIT 2: For the Soccer Tournament website, how about adding a Hall of Fame page to honour all winners of previous tournaments? :D It would be nice to have an overview. :)

Re: Soccer Tournament

PostPosted: 04 Jul 2021, 07:25
by FabianF
I agree, in this tournament we had a lot of great matches, but some players were missing too often :-(

Not sure whether banning Las Dunas is a good idea - it usually is played at most once in the whole tournament anyway... And maybe someone will complain if we ban it. But we probably shouldn't require it so that people can just delete it (despite it being an official field, sad we have to say this about an official field!)

A "Hall of fame"-like page sounds cool :-)
We already have https://luffah.xyz/wiki/supertuxkart/so ... r_rankings rankings based on tournament matches and https://stk.kimden.online/wiki/index.ph ... Tournament an overview for all tournaments, but something more detailed (and more easily to find) could be good indeed

Re: Soccer Tournament

PostPosted: 04 Jul 2021, 10:59
by kimden
Even if I like Las Dunas, it is a good idea to have all official tracks and arenas actually playable - and if some people cannot play it due to lags, it is a real problem. Though the arena being slightly asymmetric isn't a big problem because the main problem with this arena is players refusing to play it because of lags - we cannot really say "that team lost because of that corner" if someone just complains on lags immediately and they play another arena, lol. Probably Las Dunas is still official because not many devs are interested in maintaining something for soccer (though for racing there is the same lag problem with two official tracks).

Not that it is pretty hard to find tournament pages once you found one (links are literally everywhere), but I agree that some overview of winners and matches would be good. Probably we'll do something soon.

Re: Soccer Tournament

PostPosted: 05 Jul 2021, 10:01
by sridharkumar
Its funny that team A lost with teams which are last in the table. It was very interesting Tournament!

It would be nice if somebody updated las dunas. Maybe if some lights and effects are reduced and make it less dark it shouldn't cause lags.

Hall of Fame sounds pretty cool. Maybe we can show best set of teams which are successful throughout all the tournaments.

Also, when will be the next tournament?

Re: Soccer Tournament

PostPosted: 05 Jul 2021, 14:47
by FabianF
Benau apparently started working on a new Las Dunas

Tournaments usually happen each two months (so the next one would be in August), but due to possible unavailability of organizers we might also do the next one later, in September/October. In any case, it will be announced and advertized (almost) everywhere possible, so don't worry, you won't miss it :p

Re: Soccer Tournament

PostPosted: 20 Aug 2021, 13:49
by Soccer Tournament
You can now register for September 2021 tournament - just as before, the registration form is at https://stk.kimden.online/tournament, the tournament page is at https://luffah.xyz/tournament, and the current (auto-updated) results are at https://stk.kimden.online/soccer/. Rules haven't changed compared to June tournament, each team still consists of 4 players and (most likely) plays with all other teams once.

The registration ends at August 31 midnight, hope to see you in the tournament!

Re: Soccer Tournament

PostPosted: 16 Sep 2021, 14:59
by Wuzzy
Hello, I have to announce that I probably cannot come to play on Saturday, 18 Sept. Can this match be moved to 19 Sept instead? If not, how about 18 Sept 22:00 UTC?

Re: Soccer Tournament

PostPosted: 16 Sep 2021, 20:50
by kimden
Yes for 19th

Re: Soccer Tournament

PostPosted: 18 Sep 2021, 10:53
by kimden
We have updated the schedule with many changes. We sent the notifications to all affected players, and also the changes are visible at https://stk.kimden.online/soccer/. Please review them and in case you cannot play at those dates, tell us, preferably as soon as possible.

Re: Soccer Tournament

PostPosted: 22 Oct 2021, 13:59
by Soccer Tournament
You can now register for November/December 2021 tournament - just as before, the registration form is at https://stk.kimden.online/tournament, the tournament page is at https://luffah.xyz/tournament, and the current (auto-updated) results are at https://stk.kimden.online/soccer/. Rules haven't changed compared to June tournament, each team still consists of 4 players and (most likely) plays with all other teams once.

The registration ends at November 9, 23:59 UTC, expect the matches to be held between November 12 and December 16.

Hope to see you in the tournament!