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intel UHD graphics question

PostPosted: 05 Apr 2020, 08:06
by Jastiv
I'm thinking of getting this laptop to replace a laptop that has been having power/charging issues (can't really run it to do much for more than an hour due to some issues with charging, even when plugged in.)

https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/ ... nux-laptop

This one has intel UHD graphics.

Does anyone know how well that will run supertux cart? I don't want to be disappointed and find I have to run the game on the lowest settings or not at all.

Re: intel UHD graphics question

PostPosted: 05 Apr 2020, 09:32
by tempAnon093
Alright this is all blind approximation, however I have been able to find some clues. Hopefully someone with better experience can answer more accurately.

Here is a video I found of someone playing 1.0 (current is 1.1, I don't think the graphics have changed much) without a dedicated GPU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2APXr1LLjZQ
Keep in mind:
1) I'm guessing they are using about 5 or 6 out of 6 graphics setting (judging by the dynamic shadows). 4 looks practically the same to me!
2) They are recording, which may decrease performance
3) They appear to be playing in 1080p, same as your fullscreen
That said, there is a significant amount of lag for them. It's hard to say whether recording caused much of it or not. :think:

Here is a comparison of your CPU vs theirs (I'm assuming the lower i5 choice): https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/I ... 03vsm27864
and here's your graphics unit vs theirs (as far as I can tell): https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/I ... 44vsm36797
Your CPU is significantly better (quote: +54% effective speed) and your graphics are better (quote: +23% effective 3D gaming speed).
So I'm ***guessing*** you could get those graphics without little-to-no lag on the ThinkPenguin.

Re: intel UHD graphics question

PostPosted: 06 Apr 2020, 23:47
by QwertyChouskie
Although the performance should be decent, quite frankly, I would not buy an Intel-based laptop in 2020, their performance is completely inferior, and have countless unpatchable security issues (just Google "Intel Management Engine vulnerabilities" sometime, it's scary!) Personally I have been drooling over the ASUS Zephyrus G14, it has Nvidia graphics which can be annoying on bleeding-edge distros due to Nvidia's drivers, but their cards do perform well, and you get to dump Intel. :p Even the base model beats the pants off of your linked notebook in price-to-performance: I speced out your linked notebook with 8GB RAM and a 500GB SSD (same as the base model of the ASUS), and the best selectable processor (which is still worse than the processor in the base-model ASUS), and it came to $1,256.75. The base model of the ASUS is $1,049, and that's with not only a better processor, but also with dedicated graphics (Nvidia GTX 1650), which will beat integrated graphics any day.

It looks like these should hit general availability in June, so if you can wait the ~2 months, I definitely would. Also, there will be other laptops based on the Ryzen 4000 processors, so even if the particular one isn't for you, chances are there'll be one that fits your use-case quite well when June rolls around.

Re: intel UHD graphics question

PostPosted: 07 Apr 2020, 23:33
by QwertyChouskie
And more Intel vulnerabilities roll in. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page= ... itch-April

Please, buy anything but Intel, it's for your own good :/