Konqi wants you !

Re: Konqi wants you !

Postby Ludsky » 08 Feb 2013, 10:43

betharatux1 {l Wrote}:wah, i miss a lot comment :o
antoine {l Wrote}:I would suggest adding pedals to the orange kart


good suggest, i will make it soon ;)

jymis {l Wrote}: and not convinced by actual KDE logo (too much copy-pasted).

i got some idea for that ;) ... and keep stay tuned :lol:

okay, enjoy for test :cool: ... and tell me if got bug :think:
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I love your Konqi, very good, congratulations !
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Re: Konqi wants you !

Postby antoine » 08 Feb 2013, 12:39

@Betharatux

I just tried your kart and I love it. Fantastic work. Please spruce up Elephant's or Adiumy's next.
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Re: Konqi wants you !

Postby Totoplus62 » 09 Feb 2013, 22:48

hiker {l Wrote}:
Funto {l Wrote}:My view is that in the end, characters should be able to have several karts, and we should be able to choose the color at runtime, but that's a long-term goal that requires a bit of work...
And that would allow us not to throw people's work :)

I totally agree with that. It might even give us more variety, since it would be easier to only create a kart (it would only need to follow certain guidelines, and you would automatically have a set of characters for it) or a character only (again which would automatically have a set of karts available).

It would somehow restrict creativity somewhat, e.g. karts like puffy would be a problem - but perhaps we can support both - all-in-one and combined. Not sure how the gui would work - perhaps the karts would determine physical properties (e.g. heavy/slow, high/low acceleration. high/low max-speed, handling, ...) - and the all-in-ones would have no choice.


-I also think this (different karts per character) but they should have the same color/hue for one character (it can be very confused without it) so --> I think that stikkers, logos and all these things are very bad for the design of the karts ! (for example emule kart, amanda kart or nolok kart are beautiful without these things :!: ) Emule in a blender kart can be very weird for example...

-Then i was thinking 3 different karts per character ---> Speed/ Boost/ Handling

Kart 1 --> Speed:**** /Boost:---- /Handling:****
Alternative: Speed:***- /Boost:*--- /Handling:****

Kart 2 --> Speed:***- /Boost:**-- /Handling:***-
Alternative: Speed:**-- /Boost:***- /Handling:***-

Kart 3 --> Speed:**-- /Boost:**** /Handling:**--
Alternative: Speed:***- /Boost:**** /Handling:*---

-Then the player choose between 2 different skidding

--> automatic skidding (the current one with boost ;), yes this is a kind of automatic skidding, you don't have to activate the boost )
--> manual skidding (Ctr skidding see details: viewtopic.php?f=17&t=4001 ;) )
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Re: Konqi wants you !

Postby Arthur » 09 Feb 2013, 23:06

3 different karts per character?? If so we need to seriously cut some characters or alternatively find a heap more modellers (or one very motivated and skilled one).
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Re: Konqi wants you !

Postby Totoplus62 » 09 Feb 2013, 23:25

No, this is not what I said (I have not been precise enough) when the player choose a character, he has the choice between 3 karts (or 6 with "alternative karts" but this was just an example)

Most of karts will be the same, in common the others characters but with different colors ;)
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Re: Konqi wants you !

Postby betharatux1 » 11 Feb 2013, 07:34

about skidding, how with this :
1. after press button by 1 = old skidding
2. after double press button = new skidding :think:
um .. is possible do this ? :think:

maybe interesting :lol:
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Re: Konqi wants you !

Postby jymis » 11 Feb 2013, 13:07

'cause you do not answer me, I hope you read my message. ;)

More, can you close Konqi's mouth ?
Unless everyone think it's cool that mascots are hilarious throughout the track…

And i don't like names on karts. ^^"

Awaiting your update with impatience. =)
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Re: Konqi wants you !

Postby Totoplus62 » 11 Feb 2013, 15:43

betharatux1 {l Wrote}:about skidding, how with this :
1. after press button by 1 = old skidding
2. after double press button = new skidding :think:
um .. is possible do this ? :think:

maybe interesting :lol:

I don't think so.. :| i think it's better to let player choose in the menu, of cource this ctr (manual) skidding should give you a little advantage ;)
But the "double press button" can be good to activate nitro. Because people don't want to use a new keyboard key (this is maybe better than a delay) and the Tutorial by Auria can explain this :cool:
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Re: Konqi wants you !

Postby betharatux1 » 12 Feb 2013, 17:52

jymis {l Wrote}:'cause you do not answer me, I hope you read my message. ;)

More, can you close Konqi's mouth ?
Unless everyone think it's cool that mascots are hilarious throughout the track…

i'm so sorry for delay the answer :(

about mouth, i think konqi good when smile :)



jymis {l Wrote}:And i don't like names on karts. ^^"


so which better ? :think:

i finish the kart, and looks like this :
konqiV1-screenshot!.png

finaly, improvement pedal, logo also improvement texture of konqi and him physical is done. at the last, here the files :)
konqiV1-betharatux1.zip
i fix sticker, now it already worked for test
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i hope this kart can be included in STK soon :lol:
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Re: Konqi wants you !

Postby jymis » 12 Feb 2013, 20:21

betharatux1 {l Wrote}:about mouth, i think konqi good when smile :)


For all karts, I think it's a bad idea.
If one day we want to animate the jubilation or irritation of a mascot because he hit a rival or was hit by another, it's better that the mascots have neutral attitude first.
If someone doesn't agree with that, I want read your arguments =)


Your fire style stickers don't appear when I test it in game. I think it's because your files don't respect the POT rule.
And I'm sorry but I don't like the new logo more.
Since you sent the file I'll try something and send it to you.

For the name I find it ridiculous, on all the karts.
Look at Mario Kart games. Except logos and scribal abbreviations "DK" of Donkey Kong, there's no sticker name.
Stickers would be as packed as sponsors stickers on formula one.
Look Suzanne's kart. it's lighted, devoid of fioritura. There's Blender's logo only.
I really like Konqi's kart spoiler when he is "naked".


Your pedals are very good !
I like exhausts too.

Now Konqi seems faithful to the original image.
Ingame I found his green too luminous. I think I'll desaturate it and send you the new texture.


Thanks.
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Re: Konqi wants you !

Postby betharatux1 » 12 Feb 2013, 22:14

jymis {l Wrote}:
betharatux1 {l Wrote}:about mouth, i think konqi good when smile :)


For all karts, I think it's a bad idea.
If one day we want to animate the jubilation or irritation of a mascot because he hit a rival or was hit by another, it's better that the mascots have neutral attitude first.
If someone doesn't agree with that, I want read your arguments =)
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i have do something about mouth but something wrong appear if i closed :(
so i decide make mouth like that :think:

jymis {l Wrote}:
Your fire style stickers don't appear when I test it in game. I think it's because your files don't respect the POT rule.
And I'm sorry but I don't like the new logo more.
Since you sent the file I'll try something and send it to you.



i have re-upload again, just checked i have tested it and worked now :cool:

jymis {l Wrote}:
For the name I find it ridiculous, on all the karts.
Look at Mario Kart games. Except logos and scribal abbreviations "DK" of Donkey Kong, there's no sticker name.
Stickers would be as packed as sponsors stickers on formula one.
Look Suzanne's kart. it's lighted, devoid of fioritura. There's Blender's logo only.
I really like Konqi's kart spoiler when he is "naked".



i never played that game, actually that is just my idea for tweak new inovative thing :lol:


jymis {l Wrote}:Your pedals are very good !
I like exhausts too.

Now Konqi seems faithful to the original image.
Ingame I found his green too luminous. I think I'll desaturate it and send you the new texture.


Thanks.


thanks for it ... by the way you can repair what wrong from my file .. and i waited for it ;)



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Re: Konqi wants you !

Postby Totoplus62 » 12 Feb 2013, 22:24

jymis {l Wrote}:For the name I find it ridiculous, on all the karts.
Look at Mario Kart games. Except logos and scribal abbreviations "DK" of Donkey Kong, there's no sticker name.
Stickers would be as packed as sponsors stickers on formula one.
Look Suzanne's kart. it's lighted, devoid of fioritura. There's Blender's logo only.
I really like Konqi's kart spoiler when he is "naked".


I completely agree with jymis ! Kart don't need stickers, logo or something like this. As i said these logos can even be a problem in a near future (with some karts/character), it is like bad car tuning :oops:
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Re: Konqi wants you !

Postby jymis » 12 Feb 2013, 22:46

Totoplus62 {l Wrote}:it is like bad car tuning :oops:

Oh ! You just remembered me an old and funny memory : a white car driving before me ; this car had a spoiler and a cheap sticker text "TUNING" in the rear. x3

More seriously, I desaturated Konqi skin :
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And I think we can see better his scales, no ?
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Tomorrow I'll make the logo I have in mind, unless you have better, betharatux.

I also hope that when we have completed the details, your kart will be added in-game.
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Re: Konqi wants you !

Postby jymis » 13 Feb 2013, 13:52

Now ?
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I also found double vertices. I fixed it.

I hope you'll agree to close his mouth.
I didn't do it by myself because I'm afraid to deform animation ^^'
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Re: Konqi wants you !

Postby betharatux1 » 13 Feb 2013, 14:07

jymis {l Wrote}:Now ?
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I also found double vertices. I fixed it.

I hope you'll agree to close his mouth.
I didn't do it by myself because I'm afraid to deform animation ^^'


sure, for tuned that thing :)
oh, that logo is like that ... The simple previously unthinkable by me, good :o



actually I'm not sure with my idea, things like stickers just pour what I want to make ... and I was lacking in terms of beauty :lol:

so I just tried another idea, which could possibly be used


konqiv1-logo idea1.png
idea logo 1
konqiv1-logo idea2.png
idea logo 2

konqiv1-logo idea3.png
idea logo 3
idea-wing maybe.png
idea for thing on wing


that any decision for new konqi candidate, I support anyway ;)
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Re: Konqi wants you !

Postby asciimonster » 13 Feb 2013, 14:24

betharatux1 {l Wrote}:idea for thing on the wing
It would be really cool to have a "Command & Konqi"-graph in the style of C&C on the wing.
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...unfortunately, the C&C logo is copyrighted. :(
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Re: Konqi wants you !

Postby jymis » 13 Feb 2013, 14:37

asciimonster {l Wrote}:It would be really cool to have a "Command & Konqi"-graph in the style of C&C on the wing.


Err, seriously ?
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Re: Konqi wants you !

Postby Totoplus62 » 13 Feb 2013, 16:53

Don't put something on wing...
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Re: Konqi wants you !

Postby betharatux1 » 13 Feb 2013, 19:19

Totoplus62 {l Wrote}:Don't put something on wing...


haha looks like good for nothing about wing :lol:

jymis {l Wrote}:I hope you'll agree to close his mouth.
I didn't do it by myself because I'm afraid to deform animation ^^'


now that thing succesfully fixed, Jymis let's smile for this ;)
konqiV1-newfinal-yay.png
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and now i added plate ( just put idea again, and opinion keep welcome ) :lol:
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at the last, can we call this kart completed for sure? :?
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Re: Konqi wants you !

Postby charlie » 13 Feb 2013, 20:18

Do his wings flap as an animation? (If not, they probably should!)
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Re: Konqi wants you !

Postby Totoplus62 » 13 Feb 2013, 23:44

I like it!
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Re: Konqi wants you !

Postby hiker » 14 Feb 2013, 00:23

Good work!

Totoplus62 {l Wrote}:Don't put something on wing...

I agree with that.

Also note that you mostly only see the kart from the back, so a lot of the details will actually be invisible (for most of the game, short of end animations ... and who is looking at them anyway ;) ).

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Re: Konqi wants you !

Postby hiker » 14 Feb 2013, 00:24

charlie {l Wrote}:Do his wings flap as an animation? (If not, they probably should!)

They certainly should at the end animation ;)

In game we don't support this atm (we play the animation for steering left/right, and don't have support for another animation running in a loop at the same time).

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Re: Konqi wants you !

Postby betharatux1 » 14 Feb 2013, 01:00

hello again, I will plan to make christmas mode and hallowen mode for konqi, but for both mode i need made 2 different source or just ones in the same source ? :think:

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Re: Konqi wants you !

Postby betharatux1 » 14 Feb 2013, 02:14

konqi now wearing chrismas hat, anyone like it ? :oops:
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